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Osama bin Laden is Dead - Mission Accomplished

Obama Announces Killing of Osama bin Laden

WASHINGTON --President Obama announced late Sunday that Osama bin Laden, the leader of Al Qaeda responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks, was killed in a firefight during an operation he ordered Sunday inside Pakistan, ending a 10-year manhunt for the world's most wanted terrorist. American officials were in possession of his body, he said.

"On nights like this one, '' the president said, "we can say that justice has been done.''

There are several pleasant little towns like Abbottabad in Pakistan, strung out along the roads that lead toward the mountains from Rawalpindi (the garrison town of Pakistani's military brass and, until 2003, a safe-house for Khalid Sheik Muhammed). Muzaffarabad, Abbottabad ... cool in summer and winter, with majestic views and discreet amenities. The colonial British--like Maj. James Abbott, who gave his name to this one--called them "hill stations," designed for the rest and recreation of commissioned officers. The charming idea, like the location itself, survives among the Pakistani officer corps. If you tell me that you are staying in a rather nice walled compound in Abbottabad, I can tell you in return that you are the honored guest of a military establishment that annually consumes several billion dollars of American aid. It's the sheer blatancy of it that catches the breath.



Amen getting our troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq. And I have an idea to lessen the federal workforce by laying off 250,000 soldiers, starting with every general who thought these wars were a good idea.

How will Rush and Glenn Beck spin this so it's somehow a defeat for Obama?

Generals don't decide to go to war, the civilian government does. And like the vast majority of military actions, this one is less about terror and more about securing natural resources.

Generals are supposed to control strategy. Just what was our strategy in these wars? Fire them all.

I assume you are unhappy about us 'not leaving'(?).

The idea of placing permanent bases in the region was established by the Project for a New American Century while Clinton was still in office, by people who were later in Bush's nest. Just like Japan, Germany, Cuba, Korea, we PLANNED on staying there and showing force in a strategically important region.

I am NOT saying that there weren't mistakes, allowing the post-war looting, firing the local military (creating angry, skilled, unemployed fighters), things like that were horrible, but the decision to invade a country who had not attacked us to secure natural resources and long term regional control was 100% Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/etc. Hell, even Gen Powell was screwed by them, and at the bloody UN.

IMHO, They don't respect the military in ways similar to Vietnam (loosely said).

Well Rush has made his mark dripping with snark.

The spin I've already heard is that this is a 'publicity stunt' by Obama. Garbage, of course.

I hate to make it political, but this will surely catapult Obama into a succesful re-election. There isn't any grounds for the Republicans to continue to attack him on national security issues. He's been rather Bush-like in any terrorism issues, including civil rights, except this time, we actually got the bugger, rather than dilly dally for eight years.

So the recession has resided, jobs are being gained instead of lost, health care has been reformed, and the war on terror is being won. What reason do we have to elect a different party?

It would've been preferable to capture bin Laden alive, though. I'd rather take him to trial than simply shoot him in a raid. In any case, better this than nothing. Exceedingly better...

So the recession has resided, jobs are being gained instead of lost, health care has been reformed, and the war on terror is being won. What reason do we have to elect a different party?

The other party might be whiter.

...and, as anyone can plainly see, Obama is 80% the same as Osama.

I'm not gonna be happy until there's a black, atheist, muslim-raised by mexican parents, lesbian president.

Wanda Sykes needs to have a love child!

Wait a minute: have the 2 of them ever been seen together?? I mean, Obama's Hawaiian birth is still questionable if you're Trump et. al. Obama's gotta be Osama! The death and DNA confirmation are all clever slights of hand!!!

I'm worried some right winger will pick this up and people will believe it.

Wait a minute: have the 2 of them ever been seen together??

Well at least the best thing you can say about Rumsfeld is that he's not Saddam Hussein, then.

2nd to the fact that and he wasn't the one who sang this...or siht.

Why won't Obama release Bin Laden's long form death certificate?

I'm sure Trump's salivating now at the fact that the body was "conveniently" buried at sea.

Yeah, we should done a couple of Weekend at Bin Laden's flicks.

The war on terror is now over...

If you were one of a select group of 72 virgins, you wouldn't say that.

We seem to need a bogey man. I wonder who will be Bin Laden's replacement.

I thought a good proportion of US citizens thought Obama filled that role.

ohhhh yeah. Now you are 100% on target.. You should read Former CIA Station Chief John Stockwells "In Search of Enemies" (but buy it through Norm's link)

A review has good info: "Please read this book. It tells all, that you didn't know about the direction and practices of your own country. I attended a lecture by John Stockwell and he pleads for you to not purchase this book but pirate it from your local library. The US government sued him and won the rights to this book so all proceeds go to the CIA or the Federal government. Also read "The Grand Chessboard" This is the blue print for the United States foreign policy. You will be blown away."

Long story short, we wrong-foot bad guys, to make wars on purpose.

Luckily "the war on terror" cannot be won, so they are lucky. right? We can fight FOREVER.

John Stockwell also has some fantastic lectures, look for them on YouTube. You ever want to know the CIA mans view of the world from the inside out? Here it is, warts and all.

Apparently Cindy Sheehan is one of the first high-profile deather conspiracy theorists.

Best comment yet (at Orac's blog):

According to the Laws of Homeopathy, If they buried Osama bin Laden at sea


And then there's the look on Obama's face whilst Seth Meyers was up at the correspondent's dindin. I watched this clip on Sunday, and then ran in to the big Osama news.

To the extent Bin Laden is a terrorist, might one label the U.S. to be a terrorist, too? Al Qaeda may have a casual disregard for American life (about 3,000 died in New York), but so does the U.S. have a disregard for Muslim life (110,000 civilian deaths in Iraq, 9,000 civilian death in Afghanistan). Is the coalition a terrorist body?

Those that "profess" that, are guilty of "false analogy". So without entering into a lengthy forensic analysis, here are the major points of difference:

Al Qiada INSTIGATED terrorist actions for religious/political purposes. The US Admin RESPONDED militarily, to protect non-military personnel. AQ continues to instigate & remains un-remorseful and vows endless action. The US is and remains, reluctant to continue, unnecessarily. OBL's group TARGETS indiscriminate murder of as many unarmed civilians as possible. The US TARGETS terrorist groups only and AVOIDS civilians (albeit somewhat unsuccessfully). AQ TARGETS all nationalities (even Muslims), of all ages, in all countries. The Coalition TARGETS ONLY the sources of terrorists hotspots. AQ operates virtually unilaterally to no rules of engagement. The US operates within UN (world body) approved guidelines. AQ utilizes largely militarily untrained personnel and happily "sacrifices" them. The Coalition utilizes only trained military forces, and lovingly "protects" them. AQ's aim is attention-seeking through mass murder. America's aim is world order, through policing. AQ's aim is dictatorial world domination through harsh Sharia law. The US aim is freedom for all men, including Muslims. AQ respects martyrdom through death. America respects the sanctity of life.

This list is in no way, exhaustive, but I hope shows that this argument compares apples to pine-apples. Great post however, and thanks for letting me share.


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