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It's all nice and well, except that he makes a logic mistake himself... the fact that you don't know how it works doesn't mean it's not true. Some of the cases he can take the high ground on (vaccination and age of the Earth), but only b/c there is science proving the contrary. Others not so much... including homeopathy which has double blind studies showing that it works, on PIGS among other things, so can we really talk about placebo there? Also, UFOs... if you've seen it, and can't identify, it's an UFO by definition (until you can). Than it's not an UFO, but a weather balloon or whatever.

People do indeed believe some crazy shit.

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mkrate: please provide us with the links to these "double-blind studies" on pigs (by the way, animals ARE prone to the placebo effect).

Please... don't just throw that claim out there... substantiate it.

Please, mkrate. Show us the links.

The problem with homeopathy is the same. Even more than vaccines/autism, actually, since it's physically impossible for it to work. It's not just that people don't know how it works. There are "studies" in the same sense that there are "studies" that link vaccines to autism.

Also homeopaths have the same basic behavior as other pseudoscientists, like when they are called on their ridiculous claims, they move the goalposts. At first it supposedly was that small amounts of the ingredient was left in the solution, then when confronted with the numbers (which make it very unlikely that even one molecule will be there) they started with the "water memory" nonsense. I don't even know what this lady here is trying to say.

No independent verification of these studies has been done, and also bear in mind that homeopathy has always been one of the top contenders for Randi's $1 million prize.

Others not so much... including homeopathy which has double blind studies showing that it works, on PIGS among other things, so can we really talk about placebo there?

Let me sum up Andyo's response: Bullshit! Show us these studies. Show us studies by independent researchers confirming them.

I drank water yesterday. Today, I do not have cancer. Explain that.

Are you sure?

A whole 2 glasses. The third glass was all bourbon. Pretty sure about that too.

As crazy as religion is, I think homeopathy may be the most dramatic proof of man's fundamental irrationality. How anyone, having had the method by which homeopathic "remedies" are prepared explained to them, could possibly believe that those "remedies" will work is mind boggling.

Oh, you're just saying that cause you're a chemist. You chemists and your molecules and whatnot.

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