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I wonder about theses 400 Monsters we have been breeding ever think about how terrible the world would be to live in if they actually achieved their final solution.

A few of them think about and act to rectify the situation. I'm sure some think about it, and then think hard about how to rationalize not doing a damn thing about it. The rest couldn't care less.

You can count the people that think about it on one hand.

Most must think they will create some wonerful state after they drown the govt in that bathtub. Little do they know that what they dream of (Corporations ruling in collaboration with a nationalistic military focused central govt) is generally called National Socialism by social scientists.

National Socialism

informally spelled...

resist jonathan, resist!

too late, but thanks. :)

I was gonna say the trite saying "resistance is futile."

...how terrible the world would be to live in if they actually achieved their final solution.

you can't even talk about the american income gap without using some kind of jewish historical reference, can you? really, i'm getting tired of this. norm has almost completely erased israel/jewish issues from this blog, probably because of me- it used to be a major "thing" here, you know, and i'm totally fine with it not being one. but, even referencing a seemingly innocent moore interview (with a jew, of course), you couldn't resist could you? "final solution"? go ahead, tell me again how this has nothing to do with the jews.

it's not me who's obsessed- i was starting to think it was- it's YOU. that's why norm is hiding behind birds and "big farm/big pharma" issues. and why you are knee deep in "de nile", oh potiphar.

i promise, i have no interest in your wife. just don't throw me in the dungeon! i'm not one of the "400", i promise. maybe you should check on the percentage of jews there and their level of "religiosity". maybe you'll learn something about atheism while you're at it.

"final solution".

feh. :)

And to that I say Chickadee dee dee!

As far as I know "final solution" is a refernce to the Nazi plan for createing their master race utopia (sans the jewish people and any other folks they decided were not german enough.)

So it wasn't a plan by the jews, but for them.

here I think its a plan for the working class by the super rich, who I would assume are majority christian.

But I used it above to mean "their Ultimate and evil goal". which I think is fair.

But I am with norm on the Chickadee business.

just fyi: 'final solution (of the Jewish question)' was a specific term used by some very specific high ranking nazi's to directly refer to putting jews to death instead of just harassing them/putting them in ghettos. Better info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution

"norm has almost completely erased israel/jewish issues from this blog"

Maybe you haven't been paying attention here but most of us HATE religion and the last time I checked Judaism was in with the rest of them. Give it up, set yourself free. Just quit. Judaism is just as fucking stupid as every other religion out there and believing in it makes you just as stupid as the garden variety Jesus freaks.

hey, i hate religion as much as the next guy. difference is, i recognize this as misanthropy- something norm has been fairly honest about but you haven't.

all my wasted words on the subject of why judaism is, at least more "harmless" than other religions have been based on it's flexibility. which is better, imo, than the political/atheist dogmas bandied about here. which, themselves, are better than the opinions/beliefs of the vast majority of humans- but only because of education- a jewish value. also, btw, an asian/american value. but the only asian/american blogs i'm familiar with (you'd be surprised how many) are pro-israel and even pro-jewish, making them boring for me to read since i already agree with them. i'm not interested in mutual back slapping- which is why i always enjoy your posts, leftbanker.-

westbanker

education- a jewish value. also, btw, an asian/american value.

and the jesuits?

as you probably know, I'm not religious. I do perceive agnostics and atheists holding education as a value as well.

I do perceive agnostics and atheists holding education as a value as well.

exactly my point, me too. finding people who truly hold education as a value, who disagree with me about my pet issues- jews/judaism/israel- has been a "godsend" (sorry) for me. finding really intelligent, well-educated people who disagree with me ain't as easy as you might think. :)jk

but seriously, atheists are more fun than a barrel 'o monkeys. and i get to learn stuff, too. i love this place.

all my wasted words on the subject of why judaism is, at least more "harmless" than other religions have been based on it's flexibility.

Yep, more flexibility is one of the advantages of believing what you want instead of, say, accepting truth based on evidence.

which is better, imo, than the political/atheist dogmas bandied about here.

Is it better because most of the time you don't have to justify the statement of it being better, and you can just get away with it?

Like a famous Jew would say: "In your opinion. In your opinion". Which is your unfortunate issue.

All belief and cultural systems based on things that don't exist are flawed and eventually cause trouble.

Judaism has a healthy respect for questioning although there seems to be a lot of silence about the obvious answers.

Why do you hijack threads about economics to talk about how reasonable jews are? Do you know that obsessing over your religion in every context is not a reasonable act and disproves your premise?

"hijack"? there you go again! hijacking is a muslim pursuit, not a jewish one. :)

hey, you started it. you still probably think that the "final solution" was some sort of general german ww2-era plan for world domination, as you wrote. i didn't even try to argue or correct you.

if you think i'm "hijacking" something in my endless pursuit of kicks, and object to it, than just ignore me, and don't respond. then i won't respond to you, and voila! your pure, untainted, uncommented-upon thread will continue in all it's uncommented-upon glory.

i didn't notice you saying anything here about michael moore or economics. or anyone else, either. and you want to say it's my fault? gosh, i didn't realize my own powers. go on, econo-boy, say something about economics, i certainly won't try to stop you. i might even have something to say about it. it will probably involve the jews, somehow. :)

norm posted the thing and even he had nothing to say about it. "rich people are evil" may be true, but boring. "jews are reasonable" may also be true, but boring. it was not, as you say, my premise. my premise was "you guys are more obsessed with jews than i am, golly, it's practically leaking out of every sentence!" which may not be true, but it's less boring.

No! Don't tax the super-rich; I want a revolution!

Holy crap... after watching the video, I was expecting everyone to be commenting on how bad Colbert made Moore look. As effective as Moore is as a film maker, he is an awful debater (even when it's a satire!).

Anyway, can we talk about that instead of chasing red herrings?

So, I think Moore's debate skill is exactly the heart of the subject matter at hand. It's more about the Incredible growing inequality that he is talking about.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-chart-graph

"So, I DON"T think Moore's "

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