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Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, Rory Bremner on Satire



Bill Maher mentions that to make an ordinary person laugh you dress a person up as an old lady and let them fall into a manhole, but to make a comedian laugh it has to be a real old woman.

This explains why comedians like Ricky Gervais recent hosting job, methinks.

This is an excellent video, and the final point about joking with a group of easily offended killers (who happen to think god wants them to) is true and chilling.

Hmm... maybe Fred Phelps (pickets funerals)can pick on this group for a change wink.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well about Gervais.

That's also why certain comics and comedians are loved by other comedians but aren't particularly popular with the public in general. Norm MacDonald for instance, who people like Letterman, Jon Stewart and Conan love to have on their shows, is known to have had large parts of his audience leave his show.

On the other camp, of course Leno, Carrot Top and Dane Cook, the complete opposite. Largely popular, but their peers don't respect them.

yeah... watch the movie Funny People, about a comic and his friends. Although it is just a movie, the comedian friends are just cruel about his illness. Saw several reviews of it mention 'glad my friends aren't comics'.

Me too. Maybe it's something that happens to them. It's the humor young boys have when they burn ants with a magnifying glass.

btw, by accounts of friends who have chatted with Leno, he is a nice, decent guy to the average man. Mom mom actually went up and poked him when she was in town. I was like "Mom, don't touch the celebrities, now their mom won't take them back to the nest".

And thew hole Leno/Conan thing... Conan quit his show with $$MILLIONS$$ leaving his staff unemployed.. over the 'principal of the matter'.

Fucking asshat.

I realize we're arguing about white TV multimillionaires here, but Conan kept most of his staff from NY to LA and then to TBS though. Pretty much the only TV I used to watch was late night talk shows after work, so when all that was going down it was the funniest late night TV has been in a long time.

I'm not saying that comedians' comedians have to be assholes, it's just that probably not compromising and playing nice is seen as a virtue in their circles.

So, let me get this straight wink

Selling out to the man and doing what he wants is 'bad', but the format of their shows is to have celebrities on their show pitching their latest movie. Period.

They sell soap.

Pitch the film. Roll the scene. Hold the book up to Camera 2. Ask the agreed on questions about that funny thing that happened in Europe while filming.

But selling out to the man is bad.

shakes head

BTW, really liked Funny People. Paul Thomas Anderson's Punch Drunk Love is another great movie with Sandler. It's so good that Sandler fans seem to hate it. I always get a chuckle from the Netflix reviews that think they were getting The Waterboy or something. Sandler is a smart man.

Letterman story. I did a resume for girl that got the job with him. When she passed the first set of interviews, she was taken to meet Dave.

He looked at her for a second or two then"Do you you play softball?". "Yes.". "What position?" "Usually center field." "Good, we need some fielders for our rec team, you're hired(with a smile)."

Said he was a tad bossy, but good to work with. Thought the bossy got the job done (in a good way).

Yeah, I like Sandler in those ways too. I think Funny People was an excellent commentary on celebrity and all it entails. Found it really deep in subtle ways.

James Taylor's line was classic, too. *8)

You aren't from the east coast, are you? Everyone is like that. I have several friends that when we get together, probably spend half the time insulting each other.

Salman Rushdie's definition of a satirist from "The Satanic Verses":

"To name the unnamable, to point at frauds, to take sides, start arguments, shape the world and stop it from going to sleep. And if rivers of blood flow from the cuts his verses inflict, then they will nourish him."


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