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Morality Without God


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Just because, something is described as happening in The Bible does not mean that there is actual approval being given for it (e.g. Lot). Even though there does seem to be at least some level of tacit approval of some acts described in The Bible (because The Bible does not condemn an act), it's too much to say that "God endorsed" the act.

Many of these examples fall under that category.

...and some acts which were not included were not only 'endorsed' by God, they were committed by God – like, say, the extermination of the entire planet's population except for one family.

You know, and why be such a dick with terrestrial animals, saving only one pair of each, while all marine animals just pointed and laughed at the unfortunate bastards. (Or is there something in the babble that explains this?)

Salinity of the oceans would have changed and killed most ocean life.

ah, logic. I figure the salt lakes and salt deposits on earth would have somewhat compensated, but OK. So, the old guy had giant fish tanks with two of each species of fish... hmmm.

You know, I'm starting to think that this bible thing might not be true.

It was the people of the undersea city of atlantis that built the aqua ark.

They later pissed god off by failing to kill he aquatic son Aquaman. He was meant to die for their fins.

They also had sex with dolphins.

He had no choice but to wipe them out.

You've got a flair for this scripture writing thing. Ever think about going the L Ron Hubbard route?

I should apologize, clearly I can't criticize because of my lack of theological knowledge.

the extermination of the entire planet's population except for one family.

nah, that was NATURE, dontcha know. :)

still, i loved the list at the end of god's killing sprees. what a badass! where do i sign up?

nah, that was NATURE, dontcha know. :)

Mother nature?

still, i loved the list at the end of god's killing sprees. what a badass! where do i sign up?

As a student of current events,I am pretty sure you are on the list.

btw, the "guy/gal with the really, really long "name" is absolutely correct. this video could have been made without reference to things that god definitely doesn't like- like rape- and been much more convincing. next time.

The specific rape example is valid. Doesn't got reward Lot for saving his angles?

got? angles? mebbe. what was the reward again? lot had a pretty fucked up life if i remember correctly. if you mean his escape into misinformed incest leading to cursed offspring, i don't see that as a reward.

I thought God went out of his way to save Lot from Sodom when he decided to kill everyone in town, for essentially acting like Lot and his family, but without being loyal to him.

The lesson that I take from these passages is not that God endorses all the killing rape in murder, its that he completely overlooks it all if folks are loyal to him. If you're not loyal, they are a convenient reason to torture you to death in a terrible way and then send you to hell to be tortured for all eternity.

I think the point about taking morality from the bible holds, as gods's central message is "be loyal to your clan of me worshipers and I will protect you." The ten commandments are all about family and neighbors. It's not about right and wrong or good vs evil, its us vs them. The oldest and most disgusting of human evils.

The other lesson was, type slower.

"be loyal to your clan of me worshipers and I will protect you"

i dunno, sounds reasonable to me. especially when we're talking about a badass killing machine like jehovo-rama. :)

I guess the question isn't whether it makes sense, its whether its moral

whether its moral

jeez, i never thought of that.

congrats on your focus on loyalty, btw. that already puts you ahead of the game in understanding scripture vis-a-vis christians (those benedict arnolds, making up their own shit, worshipping some dead jewish boy, oy vey).

The loyalty stuff is odd for god. I mean, being the only god, you would think the competition wouldn't be too much of a worry. Strange he never talked about how the other gods got made up or at least took out a few major competetors be revealing that they were imaginary.

The loyalty stuff is odd for god

doesn't seem odd to me. made-up gods are a challenge to a real one. or even a made-up one. if your god is science, for instance, made-up gods like "alternative sciences" are very dangerous, in spite of their "lack of reality". you certainly spend a lot of time here "breaking down their alters". :)

Yeah, see I understand why scientists and clergy are resistant or hostile to alternate realities or myths. On the other hand, it seems a little odd for an all powerful one. I think hitchens talked well about this in his talk on the ten commandments.

thou shalt have no alternate realities. hey, you're good at this!

As a student of current events,I am pretty sure you are on the list.

oh, yeah, we're killing our enemies by the ones and twos. real genocide kind of stuff.

I was thinking you might be on the list in the other way, but I suppose either way works.

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