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  • ABC News anchor Charles Gibson flummoxes Sarah Palin in their first interview - By Jack Shafer - Slate Magazine

  • Christian Couple Staying Together For Sake Of God | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

  • De-Elitification | Mark Fiore's Animated Cartoon Site

  • beterwas » Finding the Truth is Taxing

  • OFFICIAL AMERICAN SADISM

  • The government, the media and Afghanistan - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com
    On the night of August 22, the U.S. committed what Chris Floyd, in a richly detailed and amply documented piece, calls an "atrocity" in the Afghan village of Azizabad, near the western city of Herat. The U.S. conducted a massive midnight airstrike on the village, killing scores of unarmed civilians, including large numbers of women and children. That was preceded just weeks earlier by another U.S. airstrike in Eastern Afghanistan which "killed 27 people in a wedding party -- most of them women and children, including the bride."

    What makes the Azizabad attack particularly notable is the blatant and now clearly demonstrated lying engaged in by the U.S. Government regarding this incident, with the eager propagandistic assistance of what we are constantly told is the "legitimate news arm" of Fox News -- namely, Brit Hume's show and his stable of "legitimate news reporters." Working in unison, Fox and the Pentagon continuously denied claims that large numbers of civilians had been killed in the airstrike, accusing the villagers of lying and U.N. investigators of having been "duped." But a mountain of documentary evidence and independent investigations have now conclusively confirmed that it was the U.S. Government that was lying and the villagers' claims which were true all along, forcing the military to "reinvestigate" its own conclusions.


  • Philip Roth: America the dutiful - Features, Books - The Independent


 

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Gibson: What if Israel decided it felt threatened and needed to take out the Iranian nuclear facilities?

Palin: Well first, we are friends of Israel and I don't think that we should second guess the measures that Israel has to take to defend themselves and for their security.

Gibson: And so if we didn't second guess it and they decided they needed to do it, because Iran was an existential threat, we would be cooperative or agree with that?

Palin: I don't think we can second guess what Israel has to do to secure its nation.

Gibson: So if it felt necessary-- if it felt the need to defend itself by taking out Iranian nuclear facilities, that would be alright?

Palin: We cannot second guess the steps that Israel has to take to defend itself.

Palin's comments about not blinking when decisions are necessary made me ill. Talking like that, she sounds like a fundie, but I couldn't quite put my finger on why it sounded so bad. A writer of another article at Slate expressed it plainly.

"Congratulations to Malcolm Gladwell for contributing another phrase to the popular lexicon, but the thesis of his best-selling book Blink was not that snap decisions are superior to decisions based on careful deliberation. It was that people who have a deep understanding of what they do—for instance, really good surgeons, military commanders, air-traffic controllers, and so forth—often make their best decisions quickly and instinctively.

But if you don't know what you're dealing with, snap decisions can be fatal. And it's very clear, on foreign policy and national security (in addition to much else), Sarah Palin doesn't know what she's dealing with. Worse, she doesn't know how much she doesn't know. She thinks that being "committed to the mission" exempts her from the need to think and that, therefore, firmness alone will yield righteous policy. In the wrong hands, this is a very dangerous trait."

http://www.slate.com/id/2199937/pagenum/2/

So to commemorate September 11 the owner of this blog site thinks appropriate content is linking to other bloggers criticizing the US' role in Afghanistan and dredging up past, isolated instances of prisoner abuse?

Could the 'signs' be any more clear as to what it is you're trying to accomplish?

Disregarding the fact that Afghanistan has always been the liberal pet war, do you not think it important to mention the rising death toll of American soldiers who are only there to try to help the people of Afghanistan? No, you'd prefer to make hay over alleged civilian deaths in a combat zone.

And Abu-Ghraib - a scandal uncovered by our media and military, and punished by our justice system - you just can't wait to bring that up over and over, right? Aid and comfort to the enemy? This is roughly the same level of treason as that practiced by the hack Bob Woodward, publicizing completely unproven (and unprovable) allegations to boost his own fame at the cost of a resolution in Iraq.

What is your end goal? What do you hope to achieve by attacking your own country? I'm anxious to know.

What do you hope to achieve by attacking your own country? I'm anxious to know.

It is not an attack, it is critique. You got it right at first, but mistakenly equate a critique to an attack. To answer your question, the goal would be patriotism. One of the marks of a true Democracy is a government by the people, and as such must welcome criticism, because critique is the only way to improvement.

Following in lockstep is the way to stagnation, and therefore unpatriotic.

We should never attack the policy of our own country. Come on everyone! Just practice your goose steps! Okay, ready? One, two, three, four.. every comrade should salute and march patriotically behind the decisions of our most illustrious leader.

If you attack the policies of your leader, George W Bush, you are a traitor.

George Bush IS America for Calligraph - soon to passing his allegiance to McCain/Palin.

Yglesias has a post up about the second-guessing line, so I'm not saying anything original. It's absurd. If Israel decided that our invasion of Iraq would cause serious harm to them, would they be required to refrain from "second-guessing" us? If Israel makes moves that could lead to a massive war that could spread across the Middle East and South Asia, we wouldn't be able to second guess them? Israel now has an absolute trump over the positions we take internationally? It's simply stupid. The U.S. has taken positions, correct or incorrect on just about every major foreign policy move Israel has made since its inception, and only a moron--more of a moron than Bush--would do otherwise. The fact that Bush disaterously encouraged Israel to get into the Lebanon War and lose doesn't change the fact that they probably the right to disagree with things Israel did that they didn't like.

Of course if a left candidate is elected in Israel and tries very hard to cut a deal with Abbas and move to final status talks, I'm sure that Palin and her hard-line Likudite friends in the U.S. will feel quite free to second guess that, as the latter have done with many other peace initiatives coming from the Israeli side.

Are any of the comments serious? There are a few people on here who need to learn the difference between patriotism and nationalism.

calligraph, it saddens me that you are frozen in your fear and hatred, and cannot seem to move forward. You are truly a wretched human being. Would you consider seeing a therapist? Or maybe volunteering at a soup line?

You may not like to hear this (and neither will many of the people here, because I'm going to commit a rationalist's taboo), but it is nevertheless true: you are deeply, spiritually unhealthy. Because of this, you contribute nothing but disease to these conversations. It even seems to give you pleasure to do so. We have held a mirror up to your disfigured intellect and to your twisted emotionalism, hoping that something would click, that you would recognize yourself in the way that you appear to others. But you do not seem to comprehend the significance of your reflection. So to put it plainly: The creature you are behind your warped mask is clenched with anger and gripped with fear. And so you see only enemies, and sow your hate among those who are honest with you. Fortunately, that weed doesn't seem to find these grounds particularly fertile. But as long as you choose to fear and to hate, you will remain an enemy, alone, among would-be friends and allies.

If you would try to connect with your innate compassion, and feed that instead of your anger, you might find that the world immediately becomes a warmer place, and that those who stiffen with anger at your presence immediately begin to soften their attitudes toward you.

Namasté.

Bravo perspicio. I post here extremely rarely and if I'm honest, the only thing in the last 6 months that has moved me to TRY posting is calligraph's performances - despite the fact I identify myself as a conservative, as does he - or maybe exactly because of. Nothing I ever write in response to his antagonism gets passed by Norm. You have said what I've tried to say 4 or 5 times now.

The caricature that calls itself calligraph is, I hope, an act - a troll, presenting itself in exaggerated and offensive opposition to anything said here on this site for its own entertainment. You suggest the individual behind it is actually being genuine. And that is genuinely scary. His presence here is odious to me even though he pretends to occupy the same political spectrum as I do. My wish for the site as a whole is that he would leave and cease posting.

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