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Bill Maher seems to have come to a full compromise in his support of Obama.

Was he not supporting him before? I don't know.

When Maher is sexist, it's wonderful. If Obama even utters "sweetie", that's horrible. Huh?

Bill is pushing the boundaries on the sexism and ridiculing the 17 year olds.

Part of me hates it, but part of me says that when republicans try to hold up their white christian families as a reason to vote for them, they are asking us all to take a look at how good a reason that really is.

Nothing says "family values" like teenage pregnancy.

And for those who don't really understand how McCain feels, this is from his website.

Overturning Roe v. Wade

John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench.

Constitutional balance would be restored by the reversal of Roe v. Wade, returning the abortion question to the individual states. The difficult issue of abortion should not be decided by judicial fiat.

However, the reversal of Roe v. Wade represents only one step in the long path toward ending abortion

So there it is, right from the horse's/barracuda's/pitbull's mouth

I wonder if an STD would say the same thing? It doesn't seem like they are practicing safe sex....

It's not as if Bill Maher's show were ever 'fair and balanced' - and it continues to amaze me that every blue-blooded liberal will get worked up into a fine froth if you mention Fox News, but they don't seem to notice the stranglehold they have on every other network, including ones that don't even cover news - but his fanboyish support of the Democratic party has become smarmy and unbearable.

But it doesn't upset me, really, because in the end you guys are only hurting yourself. Seriously, this New Rules consists of:

  • The continuance of the completely ghetto, base term 'baby mama', and more picking on a pregnant teenager
  • Making fun of McCain using base sexual innuendo
  • The anointing of Obama as 'the smartest guy' with no analysis of his ridiculous positions, his flaws, or his actual, provable 'elitism' (guess that's above Bill's pay grade)

It's blatant hero worship, rooted in ignorance and backed up with the most snide, mean-spirited, and misanthropic attitude possible.

Will you never learn? Seriously, how many times can one group of people shoot themselves in the foot? Do you not realize that when you make yourselves look like childish asses, when you yank down your pants and walk around the room waving your dick, nobody wants to listen to you. How much do you think you're helping your little messiah by showing just how mean-spirited and hateful you are?

But who am I kidding? It's like trying to talk to a child in the middle of a tantrum. McCain is old! Palin is a frosty bitch! Ooh, I heard she forced her kid to have a baby and then pretended it was hers! I bet McCain's fucking her! Et cetera, et cetera. Like school children.

Incidentally, McCain is now ahead of Obama in all polls. Keep writing those zingers, Bill.

It's blatant hero worship, rooted in ignorance and backed up with the most snide, mean-spirited, and misanthropic attitude possible.

...projected the Hollow Man.

The record shows irrefutably that your purpose is not to inform, but to deceive, and you cheerfully intermix fact and fiction to do so. You never correct your views when reality contradicts them.

You're a fraud, calligraph. Your arguments do not merit a response. They are merely the shells in your con game. Otherwise, you would not abandon them whenever you have no way to advance them.

One need only look at your lengthy record to see that you are fundamentally dishonest. The only point in engaging you is to reveal your reptilian nature to onlookers.

One of these days, and soon, I'm going to remember that "Preview" breaks the "Reply to" function.

Till then, I intend to shamelessly double-post.

How much do you think you're helping your little messiah by showing just how mean-spirited and hateful you are?

I missed it, did he say republican were going to burn in hell for all eternity because of their hedonistic sinful ways.

Oh no, that's right, that's the mean spirited hateful republican banter that gays, minorities, and liberals all have to tolerate, if a liberal ever returns fire they are arrogant elitists that no one could ever vote for.

Bill isn't trying to get votes here Cali. He is just venting on those that can't seem to see how badly the country is doing and who is clearly responsible, all the while believing the fairy tail that these conservatives have stronger "family values" then those of us, that have lower divorce rates and actually educate our children about science and birth control and not drinking and driving, and wholesome shit like that.

It's blatant hero worship, rooted in ignorance and backed up with the most snide, mean-spirited, and misanthropic attitude possible.

...projected the Hollow Man.

The record shows irrefutably that your purpose is not to inform, but to deceive, and you cheerfully intermix fact and fiction to do so. You never correct your views when reality contradicts them.

You're a fraud, calligraph. Your arguments do not merit a response. They are merely the shells in your con game. Otherwise, you would not abandon them whenever you have no way to advance them.

One need only look at your lengthy record to see that you are fundamentally dishonest. The only point in engaging you is to reveal your reptilian nature to onlookers.

Oh no, that's right, that's the mean spirited hateful republican banter that gays, minorities, and liberals all have to tolerate

Disregarding your conflation of religious conservatives with non-religious, how did I miss the press conference where McCain/Palin said that gays, minorities, and liberals will all burn in Hell?

Your real gripe seems to be on the homosexuality issue, perhaps the most overblown (no pun intended) non-issue ever forced upon the public by a special interest group.

I'm not religious, so it's not a religious angle for me on the issue. But certainly you could understand that angle, were you to step outside your bias and analyze it rationally. Perhaps the best explanation I've recently heard came from a pastor of an Ohio church. In response to the execrable, kiddy-porn video for "I Kissed a Girl And I Liked It", the church put up a sign saying "I Kissed a Girl And I Liked It, Then I Went To Hell". They were immediately mobbed by the ACLU (of all things), special interest groups, and the media. The top priest guy sat down for an interview and explained it in as plain language as he could: it has nothing to do with hatred. It has nothing to do with 'phobia'. Christians follow a specific and explicit set of rules in which sins are defined. The sinner is not hated; the sinner can repent his or her sin and be forgiven. The man went on to explain that they see homosexuality in the same light as adultery and other non-mortal sins. Love the sinner; hate the sin.

Perfectly rational and reasonable - in the terms of the mythology.

And he went on to explain that the whole reason they did this was because they felt that children are constantly inundated by pro-gay and sexual messages (and you can't really call 'foul' on that when "I Kissed a Girl", etc, is running nonstop on youth-oriented networks). For all the screaming we hear about 'homophobia', you can hardly turn on the TV without seeing two chicks or two dudes making out.

So your point seems both poorly-informed and entirely off subject. You're using a single belief which rarely even comes up as the basis to reject an entire, unrelated political mindset.

He is just venting on those that can't seem to see how badly the country is doing and who is clearly responsible

The fact is that the country is not doing that badly. Unemployment is up, the housing market is down. Prices are up. But there are no Hoovervilles, everyone's not standing in soup lines. Most people have only been marginally affected by the economic downturn. It's remarkably similar to the economic situation post-9/11: everyone was screaming about how the economy was going down in flames, but every mall was busy and cars were still selling pretty well.

And please get off the soapbox on the 'who caused it' thing. The Democrats signed off on every spending bill. They kept the troops in Iraq. The Democrats are the masters of misdirection: blustering self-righteously about the situations they're busy helping to create. No welfare for corporations! Then they vote to bail out the lenders. No more Iraq war! Then they pass numerous funding bills. And on and on.

How can you expect people to respect your opinion on something when you are so biased you don't even examine the culpability of the party you claim to be our saviors?

"(and you can't really call 'foul' on that when "I Kissed a Girl", etc, is running nonstop on youth-oriented networks). For all the screaming we hear about 'homophobia', you can hardly turn on the TV without seeing two chicks or two dudes making out."

Puhleeez. Watch something besides the pron channel and take some data before making such a stupid asserion.

[yes - i usually ignore your comments like this, but you seem to be on a roll. Sometimes calli you actually touch on sense. Not this go round, though]

"The fact is that the country is not doing that badly. Unemployment is up, the housing market is down. Prices are up. But there are no Hoovervilles, everyone's not standing in soup lines. Most people have only been marginally affected by the economic downturn. It's remarkably similar to the economic situation post-9/11: everyone was screaming about how the economy was going down in flames, but every mall was busy and cars were still selling pretty well."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnnOOo6tRs8

http://features.us.reuters.com/cover/news/D8C99CD0-AF35-11DC-9E67-616F0DA5.html

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/29/business/30econ.php

Reuters ain't zactly a liberal bastion, so those links are for you.

Let's stop blaming, OK. Yeah, the Dems were kinda wimpy in the legislature, but they were between a rock and a hard place. Rock=not quite enough votes to override a veto. Hard place=needing some leverage for more moderate proposals, they don't want to seem overly partisan for when their turn comes.

Howzabout we figure on who has better ideas to start digging us out of 8 months of job losses, housing foreclosures, unequal wages, and the like?

Stranglehold on the news? That is so funny. In 2000, I believed in the myth of the liberal media -I figured, when it came time for a slant, it would be on the liberal side so I understood why conservatives would complain. I assumed the unending attention we all had to deal with about Clinton was the media pandering to everyone's purient interest (otherwise, why would the liberal media broadcast it 24/7?)

And then Bush became President. And then I started looking for stories about the small and large abuses of power and - you know what - there wasn't anything. You would have to look on page 25 to find the hint of something. And, then I started realizing - if, indeed the REPORTERS were liberal the money men who owned the media were still in charge and were going to do what they wanted and - surprise, they were "fiscally conservative" (although not socially if it might make them some money.)

So - there really was no news I could stand to listen to outside of PBS/NPR (of course, the government had to put a stop to that and tried to put some conservative guy in charge...) Thank goodness for the comedy shows for the liberals.

I thought this was funny. I don't always and I'm not a fan of Bill Maher as a person but I do think he's smart. I also like Jon and Stephen. Tell me three political humorists you like. You always come in complaining about stuff here but I've never seen anything you like - you say you don't watch conservative channels - fine. What does agree with your non-elitist taste?

And, perhaps it's time to put the Messiah statement to bed. Now that people have bent over backwards with amazing enthusiasm to embrace Palin and what I think are marginal leadership skills - perhaps they'll recognize what it means to like your candidate.

And back to the elitist for a moment. Obama an elitist? What does that even mean? Is that Republican code for smart and well-educated? I'm not sure why the son of an admiral who went to Annapolis isn't elitist - maybe because he graduated close to the bottom of his class? Or does it mean snob? Does that mean he is going to ignore you, make fun of your bad taste, not invite you to dinner? Why are Republicans so insecure about themselves? Most of the Republican power guys went to Ivy League schools? But, I guess they weren't very smart....

In accordance, Jill.

Yeah, a guy who was raised by a single mother and grandparents, gets into Harvard on good grades and other work, and becomes a Harvard law review - that's elitist, so BAD.

But a guy who gets into Yale because he's a legacy, get gentlemen's C's, cokes up, cheer leads, but repents and starts running oil companies (positions handed to him through pa connections) - what's that? The good ol boy system. How is that better? It certainly was a diaster in W's case.

I'd prefer a national leader and world leader with some elite qualities thank you very much. Nice how liberal and elite are epithets these days.

Is that all the GOP has?

No, they also have a lot of money and ruthlessness - neither of which should be underestimated.

But what's more important is what they don't have: empathy. That's why they absolutely own the national defense issue, no matter how badly they fail in every other regard - or even that one. The American people instinctually trust the GOP to protect its interests without regard for the harm that may cause to anyone else. And they are right to do so. They also trust that they are still valuable enough to the GOP to receive some of that protection, but they aren't as right about that as they think.

But still, it makes more sense on an animal level to trust the GOP on national security than it does to trust the Democratic party, which seems unable to strike down its domestic political opponents, even when they stick their necks waaaaaaay out. Thats why we can all laugh at the idea of "compassionate conservatism", but only the liberals stand agape when it is elected.

A sly lizard brain easily defeats a distracted monkey brain.

Prices are up. But there are no Hoovervilles,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/20/bbc-report-sheds-light-on_n_92548.html

And please get off the soapbox on the 'who caused it' thing. The Democrats signed off on every spending bill. They kept the troops in Iraq.

In case you missed it, this is why Hillary lost the primary, we wanted to nominate a candidate that hadn't been writing blank checks for bush.

How can you expect people to respect your opinion on something when you are so biased you don't even examine the culpability of the party you claim to be our saviors?

I ain't to big on saviors and I have no fear of criticism for my party. But you are suggesting that we should consider voting for McCain because the democrats aren't the second coming.

It's remarkably similar to the economic situation post-9/11: everyone was screaming about how the economy was going down in flames, but every mall was busy and cars were still selling pretty well.

First,just to be clear, the current financial crisis wasn't caused by 9/11 two buildings were destroyed and 1 damaged and airlines lost revenue. The emotional impact will last, but the financial impact has already been bailed out by the Feds. This is about huge deficits, Unregulated lenders cashing in on the absent minded administration and oil prices driven by bad foreign policy and energy policy written by Enron and Exxon.

Second, as in above clips, people are losing their homes, you can walk neighborhoods and see the foreclosures. In some places you can see several in a block and that is the same in Minnesota and California and Virginia and Colorado. And I know people that have been laid off and companies teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. It's real!

I actually saw Phil Gram around town last week, and yes he looks just as stupid in person.

I really think that perspicio's standard reply to calligraph is best. In one place or another on this blog, virtually everything in calligraph's rant has been debunked - indeed he used the same stupid "Hooverville" reference and said the said same bullshit about things not being so bad quite recently. perspicio is right - calligraph is an intellectually dishonest fraud. The most absurd thing in the current version of his rant starts, "How can you expect people to respect your opinion...". You can cite facts and statistics until you're blue in the face and it will not change one bit of his bullshit. It isn't a matter of whether 'people' respect my opinion - there are 'people' whose respect I value, but calligraph certainly isn't one of them - so ignore the asshole.

Okay - done. You guys have warned me before about the futility of the attempt and you're right. Is Syngas any better (or is he the same person as calligraph?)

Do you want a fish, or to fish?

I absolutely do not advocate ignoring him. To do so would be to utterly disregard what he is.

People here are so used to the luxury of carrying on rational conversations with fundamentally honest people that they consistently fail to deal with the likes of calligraph appropriately.

What possible good can come from arguing with him? You cannot convince him that he's wrong, and everybody else is already convinced. What's the old saying? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

Yet, I often respond to his arguments. Why?

Eternal vigilance is why.

I know I will never change his mind. I am not trying to change his mind. I am sounding the alert. Some of you are too far removed from your animal instincts to recognize the warning. Some of you are so enamored of man's capacity to reason that you think there is an intellectual resolution to your differences with calligraph and his ilk. Yeah, and dogs can be turned into vegetarians, too - but only if you utterly subjugate them to your will. How ya gonna do that with calligraph? Those of you who think this way deserve the label, "effete intellectuals".

Once and for all, get past what he says, and look at what he is.

calligraph is an intellectually dishonest fraud.

It's a shame really, this website could use a few intellectually honest conservatives to make the debate interesting.

Calli, you don't know any honest conservatives do you?

bah, I guess that's a fools errand anyway.

It would be a fool's errand to ask calligraph to point you to wisdom, that's for sure! But make no mistake about it, there are wise and empathic conservatives out there. There was one on Bill Moyers Journal a few weeks ago. It was so refreshing to hear that I put the two-part video on my blog.

But that's not who is at the helm in this country.

I'm torn about this guy. On the one hand, he is obviously right about American imperialism, he is obviously right about questioning the sustainability of our foreign policy, the stupidity of our energy policy, and our explosion of debt.

What pisses me off is that everything he's said has been said by everyone I know - liberal and conservative - who have any brains at all. And yet, as the Bush administration has taken the stupidity of Reaganism - supply-side economics and unlimited self-indulgent materialism - to it highest level, anyone who has objected has been derided. Well, professor Bacevich we're glad to have you aboard. It's about fucking time!

Of course, Bacevich has been "on board" for quite a while. The American public has not, because the media has simply ignored voices of reason, in no small part because they're, like, oh-mah-gahd, so bor-ing! The Jerry Springer model works so well, the press has abdicated its responsibilities and catered instead to the lowest common denominator.

And that brings me to another strand of the tangled web.

The media, like Washington, is broken, and virtually everybody in this country knows this, or at least believes it. But not too many people really understand the nature of its failure. Somebody at this site nailed it pretty succinctly recently, but I don't remember who or where. Essentially, the corporate media hires liberal reporters, thus creating a semblance of a liberal media for the numbnuts who cannot see past the surface. And what is past the surface? These liberal media figures are leashed and, whenever their owners please, muzzled.

Now the McCain campaign is shrewdly capitalizing on this. By directing a full frontal assault at the media, he is staking his claim on the issue. And because his is the party of faithful, thoughtless obedience, it may work.

Along these lines, did anybody see the recently-demoted Chris Matthews apologize to Republican Congresswoman Heather Wilson, a McCain campaign spokeswoman, for being so pushy (a.k.a. meeting his responsibilities as a journalist) on Hardball yesterday? (She follows Tim Kaine at 5:23.) He asked her a question three times, and she never answered it. She just went to her talking points. Same old tactics, but it remains to be seen whether the leashed bloodhounds are also being defanged.

How many reply to comments can you do before you can only fit one word per line in the tiny column?

How many reply to comments can you do before you can only fit one word per line in the tiny column?

Yeah, I wonder about that too. Also, I don't have the time to scroll up and see who has replied to previous comments. I prefer the previous format.

Stephen King's next book: The Narrowing! It's Harrowing!

I prefer the previous format.

I like the new format, i just think we should all refrain from using it except in occasions two conversations are happening in the same string or when you need to reply to someone that directed questions directly to you and Avoid this silliness.

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