Links With Your Coffee - Thursday

- AC Grayling: The rise of Miliband brings at last the prospect of an atheist prime minister | Comment is free | The Guardian
When Labour cabinet members were asked about their religious allegiances last December, following Tony Blair's official conversion to Roman Catholicism, it turned out that more than half of them are not believers. The least equivocal about their atheism were the health secretary, Alan Johnson, and foreign secretary David Miliband.
The fact that Miliband is an atheist is a matter of special interest given the likelihood that he may one day, and perhaps soon, occupy No 10. In our present uncomfortable climate of quarrels between pushy religionists and resisting secularists - or attack-dog secularists and defensive religionists: which side you are on determines how you see it - there are many reasons why it would be a great advantage to everyone to have an atheist prime minister.
- Catholic church decides sluts deserve cancer
- Television - Is Jon Stewart the Most Trusted Man in America? - NYTimes.com
- Lessig on McCain’s Internet Technology Position » Listics
- Some Friendly Advice For Obama » Mad Kane's Political Madness
- I'm Not Praying
Unlike Julie Burchill, after centuries of female oppression in the name of religion, I know God won't deliver women's rights
(tip to James)
Judging by the response to her Comment is free piece last week, I'm obviously not the only one who was stunned by Julie Burchill's assertion that in her latest incarnation as a "Christian Zionist, a Christian feminist, and a Christian socialist," she now believes "literally, in the God of the Old Testament". As dozens of posters pointed out, the term "Christian feminist" is an oxymoron; it's a glaring contradiction in terms on a par with "compassionate conservative" and "pro-life anti-abortionist".
- Free Will vs. the Programmed Brain: Scientific American
Many scientists and philosophers are convinced that free will doesn’t exist at all. According to these skeptics, everything that happens is determined by what happened before—our actions are inevitable consequences of the events leading up to the action—and this fact makes it impossible for anyone to do anything that is truly free. This kind of anti-free will stance stretches back to 18th century philosophy, but the idea has recently been getting much more exposure through popular science books and magazine articles. Should we worry? If people come to believe that they don’t have free will, what will the consequences be for moral responsibility?
- MyDD :: Obama Launches Character Attack Against McCain...Finally
- Lawsuit Seeks EPA Pesticide Data | CommonDreams.org
- US: Wanted: people to sign books for lazy authors | World news | The Guardian
- False Memories Affect Behavior
- Kathleen Parker - Pastor Rick's Test - washingtonpost.com
At the risk of heresy, let it be said that setting up the two presidential candidates for religious interrogation by an evangelical minister -- no matter how beloved -- is supremely wrong.
(tip to Peter) - Dogs have a sense of right and wrong - Telegraph
- Fallacy Files Weblog Archive: August, 2008
"Naturally Sweetened with Sugar"
- BAGnewsNotes: Is Bush Hitting The Sauce ... And Does The Distinction Really Matter At This Point?
- George W. Bush: Bush Looking Drunk At The Olympics
- The Washington MonthlyTHE AMAZING RISE OF HIGH SCHOOL MATH
- Think Progress » Petraeus draws criticism for saying Christian book ‘should be in every rucksack.’
- What If the Kindle Succeeds? | Electronic Frontier Foundation


Comments
Christianity has evolved and been re-invented again and again throughout it's history. Practitioners pick and choose, add to and subtract from manuscripts that make up the books of Christianity and extract interpretations liberally to fit whatever populist moral movement of the day best attracts new Christians to donate their time and money.
No one has the authority to claim what Christianity must or must not be: if someone insists on being a Christian, then more power to them if they want to practice a "feminist" version of it.
What no mention of McCain not even knowing how many houses he owns, as he said yesterday? (I'd link it, but really, You can find it). So Obama slams him on it, McCain responds, and when McCain responds, he inadvertantly calls obama middle class (Makes $4 million a year, and remember, $5 mil is "rich").
It's a great political comedy going on.
Christianity has evolved and been re-invented again and again throughout it's history. Practitioners pick and choose, add to and subtract from manuscripts that make up the books of Christianity and extract interpretations liberally as fitting to the collective morals of the day.
No one has the authority to claim what Christianity must or must not be: if someone insists on being a Christian, then more power to them if they want to practice a "feminist" version of it.
Re: Sluts deserve cancer.
Butterfliesandwheels is being unfair. The Catholic Church agreed to a deal whereby virginal girls could get their HPV vaccinations - just so long as none of the girls receive "accompanying advice on the need to use condoms to protect themselves from other sexually transmitted diseases." Therefore, they don't think that sluts deserve cancer. They think that sluts deserve HIV, syphilis, chlamydia, and gonorrhea - but not cancer.
Re: Rise of High School Math
Uh, oh - this also smacks of sexist calculus. Next thing you know,some blowhard will enlighten us with the knowledge that high schools are teaching calculus "to get better scores from females".
Bush is a joke and we're the butt.
I think the argument from Butterflies was BUT for the compromise the message was let the sluts get cancer.
How can Catholics hate on the sluts? Isn't that self hatred?
I have never understood questions like this. If it really is true that people have no 'free will', and if they find out about this, then it was inevitable anyway that they found out, since by supposition every event is strictly determined according to the one that came before it. And so there is no way to avoid it, and nothing to do in response to such information but what was already determined to happen anyway. So the question is empty.
I have never understood the question of so-called free will. If, on the one hand, the supposition is that our actions originate from a non-material cause that is not affected by antecendent events, then what is being postulated is something magical and mysterious. If, on the other hand, the implication is that we somehow act in purely 'blind' and mechanical fashion, in a manner in principle no different from the way a rock falls according to gravity, then it seems to me obviously false of our everyday experience and observation, not simply of humans, but of most animals. Rather, natural selection, life history, and, in some cases--especially humans--training and socialization have enabled animals to act responsely and flexibly to any number of environmental conditions, not just "blindly". There is, assuredly, a biological basis for that, but to insist that biological animals are "just blind matter" is to oversimplify the very particular kind of matter they are, and the kind of ways they behave. But more generally, I see nothing deflationary about the simply acknowledgment that human beings are just animals, albeit highly complex ones, and subject to the same constraints, although with vastly greater powers, among other things, of controlling and manipulating their environments, due largely to their vastly larger neo-cortex. And if freedom amounts, more or less, to the ability to control the environment around us, then I don't see why we need some metaphysical sky-hook, or should worry whether we're just 'blind', predictable matter.
I'm not sure I can swallow this, but that may be because my tongue is too far into my cheek.
Well, if you don't believe in a god then really every action is free, but then again every thought we have is a result of a lot of biological and evolutionary constraints, so not really free.
My interpretation has always been that "free will" is consciousness. so a salmon doesn't get to choose to swim up stream, but we can meet a mate and have offspring in a whole variety of ways. And we get to think about it before during and after.
Seems a separate issue as to whether or not there are multiple possible futures or one determined future. We still make choices in a singular timeline, its just a matter of when we made them.
In a singular timeline all history is determined all at once and one might argue that out perception of time as linear is actually an illusion of our limited perspective.
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