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What an idiot. Freedom of speech means just as much that you can choose to reject idiotic questions or not say anything; it certainly does not imply the obligation to answer or say anything, at all. That is why it's a "negative" liberty, not an obligation to tell everyone, let alone fox news, your thoughts.

Incidentally, I'm sure this story about "re-creating '68" is total bullshit, but does anyone have any info on what it is their march is actually about?

Wow - bad camera work, even before he went into the crowd. Bad journalism - or at least poor understanding of freedom of speech. Fox news is just a pathetic excuse for a news media organization. Sadly, there'll be loyal Fos news watchers that totally agree with their take on the issue.

I don't know what the rally is for specifically, but I'm guessing from the one person who said something, it's more on the progressive side of the Dem platform - get us out of Iraq, pledge and mean it when you say you'll end torture...I wonder how the marchers feel about Biden (I'm fine with it).

"Do you not believe in freedom?!"

What a boob.

Instant classic, though!

Classic Fox.

Provoke a crowd of young leftists and then report on how irrationally unwilling to talk they were.

Do they have experts from a Stalin administration advising them on how to create propaganda? Oh wait, they have Rove.

Leave it to Fox to demonize a group of bike messengers, Starbucks baristas, and used book store owners (you know, America's power elite). Ward Churchill? I guess some dopey college professor is worse than Osama bin Laden to Fox. It would be funny but too many idiots actually watch this shit and think it's news. Just the fact that “leftist” is some sort of dirty word on Fox is kind of sickening to me. I guess for them a leftist is anyone who isn't a fascist.

The other side of the coin is Fox constantly portraying America's super-rich as the saviors of our democracy. This leads to white, middle class slobs defending America's aristocracy while they outsource their jobs, take away their retirement benefits, and then give them all lawn maintenance jobs at their mansions. Grab a leaf blower and man the barricades; the leftists are coming.

When America has its next civil war, I'd like to be the first to throw a balloon filled with piss at those two Fox "reporters."

Don't you lefty-whiners believe in free speech? Thank God we live in a country where hero reporters from Rupert Murdoch's megamedia corporation can stand up to bike messengers, Starbucks baristas, and used book store owners (America's power elite).

Love that last bit, LB. :)

When America has its next civil war, I'd like to be the first to throw a balloon filled with piss at those two Fox "reporters."

why wait?

I am sure when the revolution starts these guys will be hiding behind walls higher then you can hurl a bag-o-piss.

Fuck Fox News.

I am sure when the revolution starts these guys will be hiding behind walls higher then you can hurl a bag-o-piss.

I'm sure these guys will be selling bags o' piss made from pure artesian water.

Fuck Fox News.

Duncan, don't you believe in freedom?

It's another word for nothing left to lose I believe.

Hmmm... let's see... can we get the FCC to fine Fox $172,537.79 for every "fuck" they let fly on the air? ...and multiply that by the estimated number of lips uttering those soul-destroying words?

That would be sweet justice for them staging their propaganda display.

Oh yeah... I almost forgot... Fuck Fox News!!

If anybody ever wondered how deep the far-left brainwashing has become in this country, you only need watch this clip and the reaction it engenders from the left-wingers who watch it. A Fox news reporter asks the protesters to explain their radical positions, and he is greeted with violence and 'Fuck corporate media' and 'Fuck Fox News'. And somehow, that's Fox's fault. It's Fox, staging a propaganda campaign!

Of course in every left-wing protest (are there any other kind?) the people wearing the black and red bandannas are always the ones to start throwing rocks and instigating other forms of violence - that's why they conceal their faces. But hey, they're not the problem. The guy reporting on them is the problem! Why? Because somebody told me he's evil! It's so childish.

I am sure when the revolution starts

Jesus, you people actually still talk like this? What revolution? There is no revolution, it's a bunch of whiny, over-privileged, mostly white kids who have been fed communist, socialist, and anti-capitalist lies throughout their formative years going out and making asses of themselves.

If having the true nature of your party held up to the light makes you uncomfortable, deal with that. Don't try to dissuade the voice of reason that is nagging you by projecting your anger onto the network reporting it.

I guess we know where cali gets his "news"--as if we didn't already. We used words like "revolution" and "civil war" as a joke, you humorless troll. These punk kids tell Fox to fuck off because they know Fox is a total fucking joke. It isn't a news organization; it's pure propaganda.

Cali, that was your most pathetically stupid comment thus far. Thanks for entertaining us.

Run cali, it's Cindy Sheehan! The mother of a dead American soldier and #1 on the Fox enemies list.

Oh, please, calligraph,

I think you well know how long and hard Faux News worked to earn this kind of contempt. How dare this propaganda channel, this echo chamber for the vilest attacks, the most stupid charges, not to speak of open and hidden racism and sexism even speak of "freedom of speach"? How dare the home of Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Brit Hume, Neil Cavuto or William Kristol preach about being "out of control"?

You see how ironic that is, don't you?

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Calligraph: Genius but annoying troll, or bible thumping far right conservative?

You decide.

A Fox news reporter asks the protesters to explain their radical positions,

OK, one of the protesters said they were marching against the war and against torture. Since when did opposing torture become a "radical" position. That fox news represents it that way, and waltzes effortlessly into the incoherent by labeling protesters as somehow being against "free speech", the protesters blunt dismissal of their idiotic questions as fodder for the propaganda organ of the far right wing is perfectly appropriate.

Incidentally, the Pakistani government is falling to pieces; Afghanistan just witnessed some of the bloodiest attacks there in years by Taliban forces and Islamist radicals; Russia still has not fully complied with its treaty to pull all of its forces out of Georgia (shriek, shiek, oh 'we are all georgians now!' ), and the idiotic fucks at Fox News want to engage in crude distortions of the political views of a bunch of kids on bikes? Come on!

You know, yelling fuck fox news is not really the coverage the democrats should want. I really think the protestors could have stated things better, ie we don't trust fox news to report accurately etc. I also wonder what this 68 group is about, the 68 chicago was a mess, with a lot of violent protest, and really aggressive police presence, we really don't want to be associated with that. In fact I suspect the protests in 68 contributed to the democrats defeat.

i checked their website. Their website does NOT support violent demonstrations however and makes it clear they are not trying to re create the mess that happened in chicago. Seems all about youth and people having power and a lot of parties.

I guess we know where cali gets his "news"--as if we didn't already

I actually have never watched Fox News. I did once listen to their Sirius radio broadcast, and was amazed that I wasn't told to love Hitler or grind the bones of babies to make my bread. They were just reading AP wire like everyone else.

My exposure to Fox News is probably the same as yours - I tend to see clips posted on 'outraged liberal' sites. The difference is I don't just kneejerk react with the 'Fuck yeah, Fox sucks!' nonsense - I look for context and meaning.

How dare this propaganda channel, this echo chamber for the vilest attacks, the most stupid charges, not to speak of open and hidden racism and sexism

Hang on, you forgot 'homophobia' - every liberal's favorite portmanteau. That's quite an impressive list of charges, there; they might have more impact if you and your cohorts weren't kow-towing to equally obnoxious left-wing blowhards like Olbermann every day.

OK, one of the protesters said they were marching against the war and against torture. Since when did opposing torture become a "radical" position.

Of course you picked the 'nicest' one you could grab on to. But the position is radical not because of the make-nice way you phrase it, but because this individual apparently thinks getting together with a bunch of red-masked hooligans and marching down the street is the way to fix a problem that he imagines to exist. It truly saddens me that we live in a society that encourages children to act this way over subjects they don't even understand.

That fox news represents it that way

That's the hilarious thing: Fox News didn't 'represent' anything. They showed a live feed of a bunch of left-wing hooligans. The only thing the reporter did is act like an idiot with his "do you believe in free speech?!" line - but he could have said nothing and the impact would have been the same. You don't like the impact so you blame the messenger.

Incidentally, the Pakistani government is falling to pieces; Afghanistan just witnessed some of the bloodiest attacks there in years by Taliban forces and Islamist radicals; Russia still has not fully complied with its treaty to pull all of its forces out of Georgia

Ah, dishonesty, how attractive. Using lack of context to imply no context? So transparent. Fox has covered all these things, as do all news sources.

The funny thing is that if it were a Fox report on Taliban radicals growing in number, you'd say Fox was engaging in fear-mongering. If it was an indignant report on Russia, you'd say Fox was trying to re-ignite the Cold War.

They show a live feed of kids expressing their political beliefs and ideology, and you claim it's a 'crude distortion'. So does reality now have a conservative bias?

i checked their website. Their website does NOT support violent demonstrations however and makes it clear they are not trying to re create the mess that happened in chicago.

Hang on - their website says they don't support violence?!? How shocking! That must mean it's true!

The moronic moralizing in the middle of news broadcasts is so ridiculous that it's hard to beleive they're not faking it. "Do you not believe in freedom of speech?" LOL He runs a camera crew head-on into a march and whines about being "roughed up". It's out of control! Where are the cops with dogs and batons to save that poor guy from being nudged out of the way?

Hard to believe they're not faking it? OMG... there's NO QUESTION about the setup. They even had a chance to "pre-test" the kind of footage they were going to get, and prime the crowd for the next "assault". Big fat "FOX" signage on their cameras and shit... It's just too goddamn funny, except the redneck pawn swill that infests this country simply cannot see through the crap that passes for this news "coverage".

Like I was alluding to, Faux will get a free pass. Was this "event" LIVE? (or did it have to be... like when "Jesus Fucking Christ" was said on a major network news outlet as the 2nd plane slammed into the WTC?)

Did they have an opportunity to edit the obscenities they were obviously fishing for? Fuck yes. And some of them were. So why not all of them?

Will they get a free pass? Fuck yes. It's even incredibly shitty acting by everybody involved... to make it look "impromptu" and chaotic. Shit... I'm about 20 minutes from where this happened... and it's so stupid, and isolated.

Personally, I couldn't give a fuck about what syllables go on the air, as long as it's not inciting riots and murder... but JFC... this crap is such a ridiculous double-standard. Just do a little bad acting (and be right-wing), and our puritanical laws can be flouted... just as in the Reagan presidency, I suppose.

Of course in every left-wing protest (are there any other kind?)

Since you asked, yes there is. In fact the only protests I've ever witnessed in the town I live are antiabortion picketers who regularly harass women going in and out of Planned Parenthood. Never once have I seen reporters cover their protests who prefaced their description of the protesters with the adjective, "far-right".

I am sure when the revolution starts

Jesus, you people actually still talk like this? What revolution? There is no revolution, it's a bunch of whiny, over-privileged, mostly white kids who have been fed communist, socialist, and anti-capitalist lies throughout their formative years going out and making asses of themselves.

Do people actually still think like this? Humorless and condescending and fearful of different ideas then the ones drilled into your head in the 50's. Back when the teachers were making you hide under your desk for fear or the reds dropping a nuke on your school.

I wasn't raised on lies. I was raised to never trust anyone that that told me to be afraid of thinking.

Thinking tells me that there isn't a guy sitting on a cloud watching my thoughts. It also tells me that the power mongers of Capitalism and Communism are asking me to believe something stupid, that their judgment is the best and the other side is evil.

It's a trick that we should all stop falling for after childhood.

As for revolution, its called a tounge in cheek reference.

I don't think its near, although it as not as far away as most people like to think. We are at peace at home because so many of us are rich by world standards. Every society to date has eventually screwed up enough that it's leaders resorted to violence to hold onto power and it's people had to remove them by force, Our fate is likely the same.

That's the hilarious thing: Fox News didn't 'represent' anything. They showed a live feed of a bunch of left-wing hooligans.

The reporter of a right wing network dove into a crowd and started asking silly questions to provoke them. Then he acted surprised when they yelled at him.

You don't need to ask protesters why they are marching, that's why the carry the fucking signs.

k - Are the Democrats supposed to feel some level of responsibility for these protesters because they are on the left? (As far as we know they are on the left...it's odd because the comparison to protesters in '68 doesn't seem right since they were protesting the Vietnam war to the party in power) I don't see how you can control everyone - or expect to - the right to protest is a very American, democratic right (hopefully no one in America is in favor of the Tiananmen Square Massacre.) I believe the Republicans do try to squelch that right (don't they set up small barriers far from the action?) so you probably won't see that messy misbehavior at their convention.

The fact that Fox tried to present this as news and that anyone would take that seriously is laughable and incredibly sad. And violent? Do you actually think a news guy (especially that news guy) would walk INTO a protest parade if he was afraid of being hurt?

Hooligans, calligraph? (Lovely word by the way) I missed that part. Were they busting things up? Then arrest them. The fact that they are pissed off at a supposedly "fair and balanced" station that actively denigrates and dismisses their point of view - is anyone surprised? You would know this if you ever watched the station, calligraph. I have. I also think Keith Olbermann takes a very left wing point of view. No surprise there and I bet he wouldn't be too popular at a right wing rally. And, if he started to walk in an opposite direction through a right wing march pro-war or whatever, what do you think would happen?

Stephen Muth - I think you are right on the money. Fox should be fined.

All I know is that its good to see a group of people chanting "F--- Fox News!"

The same needs to happen with CNN. Want to know where I am coming from? Click my URL... Let me know what you think. Democrat vs republican, it doesnt matter anymore. It's just divide and conquer. The 2 parties control our government, and it HAS to come to a stop somehow, because eventually, ONE of them will ACTUALLY win...

And that will be the biggest problem this country has ever faced...

All I know is that its good to see a group of people chanting "F--- Fox News!"

The same needs to happen with CNN. Want to know where I am coming from? Click my URL... Let me know what you think. Democrat vs republican, it doesnt matter anymore. It's just divide and conquer. The 2 parties control our government, and it HAS to come to a stop somehow, because eventually, ONE of them will ACTUALLY win...

And that will be the biggest problem this country has ever faced...

here in israel i only get 4 news channels in english, and fox is the only american one, so i watch it all the time for kicks. (a good rule of thumb is fox for weed, cuz it's so wacky, bbc for beer, cuz u actually get the news, and for acid, anything BUT fox, or you'll wind up thinking all americans are robots. but i don't recommend tv on acid at all, in general.)

so anyway, it really is as bad as everyone here says it is,(i assume none of you actually watches it) and even worse. fox is a disease, a fearmongering virus.

having said this, i think many posters are confused about something. this wasn't a march or rally, rather a bunch of people on their way to a bunch of marches and rallys. there's no way reporter boy could have known which group he would run into during his reckless attempt to raise his status as a reporter. and that's all that was. yes, fox people are aware that everyone hates them,and certainly these particular people, but i don't think it was any kind of setup, other than a setup to make reporter boy look gutsy and intrepid to his bosses.

Fox is the modern American Pravda - having basically the same relationship to the Republican party as Pravda had to the Communist party. These people know it and even Calligraph knows it, I think. What is ridiculous is that he pretends that the people on this site are the brainwashed ones.

calli,

Aside from the comments made here about the network and subject, could you please rate the reporter's skill on a scale of 1 to 10?

I've been on TV my share of times, and known quite a few reporters covering similar events, so I'll be interested to converse with you on this topic.

Yours, with hugs and kisses, -R

This is what the right does best: it makes people afraid. Afraid of terrorism, afraid of immigrants, afraid of...LEFTISTS! Run for your lives, it's an 18 year old kid wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt!

While America's middle class hides behind the couch trembling, their retirement programs are taken away, gas prices skyrocket, infrastructure crumbles around us, and we ignore everything we should be addressing. Well done, Fox (I can't make myself call it news).

Run for your lives, it's an 18 year old kid wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt!

i believe in positive reinforcement. i think regular posters who are on a roll should be commended for their efforts. mat scheck was kind enough to do this for me recently at another thread, and i just wanted to shoutout a "well done, lad" to the venerable leftbanker here. and while i'm at it, i'll put in my vote for more dende blogger, a consistant voice of reason and not entirely humorless, either. don't be shy, dude, your work is appreciated!

There also should be a prize for "best professional concern troll" though here at OGM I can't think of more than one.

i'm sorry, andyo, was that directed at little old moi? if not, than who? and if so, than i ask: what did i do to deserve that?

i only bother to ask because i had to look up the term (the same way i had to look up "troll" many moons ago when someone here accused me of that) and the definition seems to necessarily include dishonesty, some kind of role playing, secret agent type thing with the intention of disarming "the enemy" in order to sneak into their brains and mess with the wiring.

i personally don't have anything against trolls, i think they make for more interesting threads. for instance, watching calligraph throw himself to the lions every once in awhile can be quite amusing, and even informative in terms of learning what "wingnuts" think about specific issues. and if someone thinks i am a troll, than so be it. a "concern" troll, on the other hand, with its implication of dishonesty, is another matter, and i would take offence at such an accusation.

so tell me, should i be offended? and if not me, just out of curiosity, who?

Aren't we all trolls really?

There's lots of trolls here...

Calligraph - Opposing troll: no matter what the topic is, he disagrees and points out how dumb, misguided, foolish, zombie-like, wrong you are, and never responds with any proof, just name calling mostly.

Philosophers Tone (one evil emo.. etc.) - Offtopic troll: Comes in, tosses in some confusing information/unrelated information, and kills the thread/discussion due to the confusion he causes.

Joann - Concern Troll: Everythings doomed. Why bother. The information presented won't change xxx or xxx..

Norm - Moderator Troll: If You guys don't like xxx, leave my site. (Back in the mystical days of Lemos).

Charles Lemos - Intelligencia Troll: I know more than you, so i'm right. (often confused with the opposing troll).

I could go on...

Yikes, seems some people are a bit insecure about their troll status. I don't consider the people mentioned trolls, they usually engage in the discussion at the very least.

so who's the concern troll, andyo?

magnolia electric: if the moderater can be a troll, the term truly has no meaning.

Can we just all agree that Fox News is fucked?

Magnolia, I fear you have become a troll troll. You take the string off topic by pontificating about trolls.

There was a time when that Fox dude would have been an allegory for me here! I'm not sure if you've all just been numbed to my presence, or if I've become less offensive, but I don't seem to evoke the same reaction anymore.

Could the Fox reporter be the troll in that context?

Whoops, sorry I feel like the troll now. One of the mentioned ones is the one I was talking about. Y'know, the one that's always rationalizing ways in which gays getting married are a menace.

Aww gee Syngas, you're not offensive - just wrong.

Tim is a fact troll

You take the string off topic by pontificating about trolls.

I sure did. :P

More pontification - Troll is mostly a sliding scale, somewhere between 1 and 7. Moderator trolls are around a 1 or 2, usually doing the good job of getting the discussion back on track, but still in some aspects, 'trollish' if you will.

opposing trolls are 6 on on the scale, always taking the topic off subject and destroying most civil discussing and usually turning it into a name calling thread.

Offtopic trolls are 7, if they are effective. Philosopher's tone has many a last posts in ogm threads :P. I really do appreciate his posts, but man, they are like a period and the end of every OGM sentance.

RedSeven - Troll troll, Perfect, I was having a hard time placing it, but you got it right on the money :P

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