Corporate Crooks
Indeed, corporations are not individuals. They don't get a seat at the table. We don't need to compromise with corporations. They don't get a vote. When it comes to governance the only voice we should listen to is that of individuals who want to suggest ways in which certain policies can help insure that business benefits the country. What is good for business is not always good for the country in spite of what Republicans and Corporate Democrats may say. We need to separate the what is good for the country from the what is good for the amoral often immoral best interests of a legal structure that defines how a business operates. Jon Edwards understands this, I'm not sure the others do. Many corporations are stealing what is good about the United States. They must be stopped.
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If he doesn't become the President let's hope he at least is made attorney general.
Richardson, 5/6ths in:
"It's embouldering the electorate!"
Wha?
Tell that to the asses on the courts that ruled the Bill of Rights extends to corporations.
Bastards. The lot of them.
Edwards is just as evil as the corporations that he shook down as a class action plaintiff's attorney and which made him a millionaire many times over and paid for a Senate seat. Corporations are generally too stupid and disorganized to be truly evil. However, plaintiff's attorneys (and lawyers of all shapes and sizes, actually) are institutionally evil and far more dangerous to our democracy because they have been given a franchise by the government to "practice law" (read: practice economic terrorism) on our society, extracting a massive, hidden tax on in exchange for very little, if any, added value. Corporations have too much concentrated economic power for sure but they are not nearly as evil as the biggest, most evil corporation in the world (the U.S. Federal Government) and it's franchisees (John Edwards and his trial attorneys). Edwards is just an opportunistic overpaid CEO of a different and more disturbing nature which makes his class warfare rhetoric disgustingly hypocritical.
Edwards has been running a great campaign. Here's hoping his upward trajectory continues.
I'd vote for either Obama or Edwards. I have reservations about both, and about the entire Democratic Party of the ball-less and spineless. Hell, I suppose I'd vote for Clinton, if I had to. But I'd vote for either Edwards or Obama with conviction, if not enthusiasm.
have you heard about the new corporate sociopathy? it talks about people becoming sociopaths by necessity when they enter the corporation. can't find the citation though.
Obama: "It can be done. I can accept political bribes and sit here and gibberish gibberish gibberish . . ."
"If he doesn't become the President let's hope he at least is made attorney general."
I don't think the interests that purchase the next president are going to let that happen.
Maybe if he doesn't win the election, he'll go back to work for a 35 billion dollar hedge fund so he can 'learn more about poverty'
Talk about a suit - he's the definition.
Edwards is the only candidate who is even remotely saying the kind of things needed to make this a better place to live for most Americans. He is the heads above every other candidate in my opinion.
Singass:
What do you know about poverty, or the working class for that matter?
No wait, I'll tell you what you know…absolutely nothing. If you did you would recognize Edwards' sincerity as well as relate to the problems of those less fortunate. But your remarks always reek of disdain for compassion and equality. If you weren't so fucking ignorant of these virtues it would also be quite sad instead of simply disgusting.
Oh I have compassion Will. I have compassion for people who cant tell the difference between sincerity and bullshit. I feel sorry for you. Hows that for compassion tough guy?
What do you know about poverty, or the working class for that matter? \ What did FDR know?
My parents both grew up during the depression; my father had to leave school before finishing the tenth grade to work the fields in order to feed the family as well as pay a huge portion to the landowners.
My mother attended school in a one room schoolhouse where all grade levels were taught at once. The instruction she received was so bad she is all but illiterate.
My grandparents did not have indoor bathrooms until the late 1950s and as far as seeing a doctor, that was strictly for life or death emergencies.
My elderly parents still live well below the poverty level and when I became disabled in 1997 I was fired from a job I had held for 23 years. If I had not received Social Security Disability I would be dead. Federal and state assistance has allowed me to attend university.
That should give a bit of an idea of what I know about poverty and the job I had for 23 years was as a telephone lineman so I damn sure know what hard work is.
Sorry OGM, I rarely rant but calling Edwards' passion bullshit, when you have no firsthand knowledge of what you are talking about is ignorance at its worst.
Homeless citizens, soup lines, starvation, foreclosures…faces full of fear and despair. Either I miss your point or you know nothing about the depression.Where did all these conservative bug-wits come from all of a sudden? From their posts here it is pretty damn obvious they are starting to panic.
I am pleased!
Oh and I wouldn't be voting for Edwards…I'm writing in Kucinich.
Peace and Love
re: What did FDR know?
I am suggesting that FDR, despite being a fatcat himself, could to reign in business and empower labor. And John Edwards, despite also being a fatcat, will do it too.
Just as an aside, I always thought that bronze replicas of FDR's buttocks should be placed at the entrance to the America's financial houses so that the traders an kiss it each day and thank FDR for saving capitalism.
Men often make up in wrath what they want in reason. - William Alger
Kucinich on why he endorsed Obama over Edwards in Iowa:
At this point if Kucinich continues to be shut out I might have to support Richardson. He doesn't have the best ideas and would not represent the change I would like to see, but he's got it right on public campaign financing and locking out corporations from that part of the political game. If he gets that reform passed, that will have a greater long term effect on our national politics than anything else any of the others are talking about.
"The man who cannot visualize a horse galloping on a tomato is an idiot." - Andre Breton
Men often make up in wrath what they want in reason. - William Alger
That's not a bad quote for Edwards. I don't think he's corrupt, but I do think that he only has one trick. Obama is campaigning to be president, Edwards is making the closing argument of a class action suit against Merck. The work Edwards did as a lawyer was as far as i can tell, admirable (unless you think any lawsuit against a corporation is wrong), but Obama is a lot more than that.
I don't think that Edwards will win the nomination but I hope that he can swing the party to the left a bit. Perhaps he can get middle class Americans to start voting for their own interests instead of for these false facades of "moral" issues which the right uses to disguise their platform of aiding mostly the wealthiest Americans.
I want to vote for someone who will get us out of Iraq immediately. Put all of our soldiers on a plane and get out. After that we can carpet-bomb Iraq with humanitarian aid like we should have done from the start.
Good to know the attacks on Edwards are as shallow as those leveled against Al Gore:
"Gore uses oil! How dare he speak about global warming!"
"Edwards makes money! How dare he speak about being poor and disenfranchised!"
It's kinda like watching the muppet who threw the fish, but they're all red herrings.
Yeah, unfortunately, I see the same thing. I really agree with his ideas about how america treats it's poor, but the rest of his platform seems nebulous.
Any fans of Ruben Bolling's great comic strip Tom The Dancing Bug out there? Check it out if you haven't seen it already. One of his best explains corporate behavior wonderfully. Basically the case is suppose that the US legalized murder. The homicide rate probably would not go up much from where it is now because even if it were legal, most people are not killers. Now suppose that a corporate CEO refused to murder the President and CEO of a rival corporation because he didn't believe it was right to murder someone. That CEO could be fired from his job and be sued by the shareholders for failure to use every legal tactic available (including murder in this scenario) against a competitor in his mission to "maximize shareholder wealth". That is the truth. When it comes to a choice of doing something "good" or "right" at corporate level, unless it can be shown to be in the company's best financial interest, personal feelings count for nothing. Corporations are by definition and by charter amoral money generating entities. And yes, in this example the real "bad guy" of the scenario would be the lawyer who made the civil suit against the CEO who chose not to commit murder. But then again, would you really want to live in a world where you couldn't get a lawyer to sue a corporation if the corporation had say poisoned your city's drinking water and given you cancer? Edwards lawyer background doesn't put me off in the slightest. Remember, it's only the lawyer suing you that's a scum bag. Your lawyer is your champion.
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