hahahhaha

I bet if you asked any child to explain the polar ice and the mammoths, you stumble upon a similar to story by at least one kid.

awesome video

You science loving liberals are so dogmatic! Gravitation and the conservation of energy are just a theories. You think 30 4-megaton hydrogen bombs are hot? When you're caught in the conflagration of hellfire, you'll know what hot is!

I really liked the part about these high velocity ice masses being redirected by the earth's magnetic field.So that's how the Silver Surfer gets around. I always wondered. Hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Tim…"When you're caught in the conflagration of hellfire, you'll know what hot is!"

What, you never picked up an ice cube with a magnet?

It seems pointless and petty to argue steps 2 and 3 of the "Hovind Theory" when step 1 dismisses reality in the first place.

Just so,

Mach 900 escapism! Wow, I like the sciency truthiness (of the creationist presentation). Uncomb his hair and it would be even more verisimilitudinous. And don't let him use Fahrenheit scale. Was there a(n Anglophony) criticism raised in there? I didn't hear it, I was to busy "making" sense to myself.

Ours is a cargo cult-ure (and car-go culture!). That's what salesmanship is after all, Holly-woods, Mega-churches, Karl, Roving Big Bad Wolf-like a-looking to hump any Little Red Ridinghoods' minds he comes a-cross. The opposite of innocence is...guilt.

Mitt Romney as our next president?

Just the magnetic personality to melt the icy skepticism (skepticiness)of the professional "beyond-true-or-false" believers. He does have the most "fake" hair. Fahrenheit... date to be announced, Judaeo-Christian-Mormonism, today's neoillogism.

Greens on Bikes? Yikes!

Mood?

Doom.

Damn!

Even though there are undoubtedly people who are so naive or stupid to believe this kind of BS is entirely true, for the most part I think creationists are just too proud to ever roll over.

Its similar to all the stuff we cant carry on airlines. Those who make the decisions of what we can and cannot take on board -know- that it doesn't make air travel any safer, but its all marketing for the illusion of safety. It matters not whether you are safe as to whether you think you're safe.

So with creationists, its just marketing and PR (though often poor PR) to try and justify the rest of their beliefs. It doesn't matter if they're wrong as long as enough people follow them.

I just love how fundamentalists so desperately try to defeat "materialism" by using materialistic arguments to explain their miracles.

They have unknowingly bought into the paradigm of science without being able to accept its findings.

-Rand

Isn't this Kent Hovind? The same Kent Hovind that git busted for tax evasion and none of his breteren would bail him out? The guy with the theme park?

Yeah, so, you just got to have a theory to have one named after you? Great, I have the Ricky Bones Theory of What makes Deeply Religious People Insane:

They refuse to stay attached to reality!

Tim's kidding right??? :-) Funny guy!!!

I guess doing surgery to correct a life threatening disorder is just a theory.

Or how about this nugget from the past - http://www.rickybones.com/godandtechnology.mov

Oh, Timmeh!

http://www.rickybones.com/godandtechnology.mov

Sorry, messed up the link

Put underscores after "god" and after "and"

Heh someone likes to make things complicated for himself to feel smarter.

It could be proven as bs in much easier ways, but you chose for mathematical proof of the dynamics.

Ricky Bones:

Nice vid. Damn what a way to contradict himself. Wonder if he even listens to himself.

OK, you low-life scum. Here's an amendment to a beautiful theory you ripped the guts out of: God turns water into wine, right? Ergo, God transmogrifies the comet into ice cream.

Now go read your Bible.

Oy, I can't tell the trolls from the facetious.

Oy, I can't tell the trolls from the facetious.

Heh, heh. That's when the facetious know they've goooood! ;)

...and it's hard to caricature a creationist!

oops. That should have been: they've done goooood!

How did that explain the flood? Why didn't Noah bring the poor Mammoths on his super-duper-heat-resistent ark? Were they incurable sinners full of impure desires and blasphemy that needed to be smited? God really does work in mysterious ways.

When it comes to my fantasies, I am an all or nothing person. I love Star Trek's postulations about how far our technology may have advanced 400 years from now because the writers, and the top-notch science advisors to the show go to great lengths to make the technology plausible extensions of physical laws we already know. Not a lot has to be taken on faith and even those things that you do, like the transporter and warp drive, are based on discovering new physical laws and phonemonae and finding ways to control them, much the same as we have discovered and subsequently found ways to use super conduction. On the other extreme, I love pure fantasy, like Harry Potter, because it never tries to explain what magic is or how it works, it just takes it as a given and integrates it beautifully into otherwise normal character's lives. I can do deliberate suspension of disbelief easily with that. What I absolute cannot stand is shitty scientific explenations of impossible things. That's why I hate super-hero stories. Superman can fly because he comes from Krypton, where things are a lot different from the earth??? Spider man has the ability to spin webs and climb walls because he was bitten by a radioactive spider?? David Banner turns into the hulk because he got a dose of gamma rays to his brain???? Now let's look at the cheesiest super-hero of them all, God. If a person really wishes to base their understanding origins and what happens after death on an omnipotent being, I've got no problem with that. For all intents and purposes it's as good for them as my scientific explenations are for me. I do have a problem when the people who run those institutions of God fantasy known as churches begin to tell people that in addition to God having made the universe and life after death, there are also a shitload of rules and impositions on their actual physical life, not the least of which is giving their money to the church, and that they have to make everybody else believe the same as they do "for their own good". Now I have a real problem. When people who shun a rational explenation for the universe are running my government, positions which should be completely grounded in rationality, I have an even bigger problem. My only hope is that the politicians are just faking their religion to get elected. Bogus science explenations like this are especially distasteful because they are obviously aimed at the person who is seeking a rational explenation for the physical world and the hypocritical church leaders are trying to head them off at the pass by cooking up some pseudo rational explenations and presenting them as valid science. If the true believer says "I believe it but I can't claim to understand how it happened." I can at least allow them to be happy in their ignorance, so long as they don't bother me to adopt their same beliefs. Frocking creationist fantasy as scientific fact is as patently absurd as presenting darwinism as a route to salvation and eternal life after death.

My only hope is that the politicians are just faking their religion to get elected.

I would have shared that hope, some years ago. But with the bunch currently sitting in the White house, I'm not hoping anymore. This Hovind style faux super hero rationality is just the way Dubya thinks. "To hell with details: This makes sense to my shoddy knowledge, so it's true to me!"

Which is exactly why I can't laugh at creationists (even as hilarious as Kent Hovind). These people still rule the country. And even after they will be gone in 2008 they still poison millions of minds with their de-education.

I'm not defending Mr Hovind, really, this idea just got me thinking. The calculations in the video assume that the space-iceberg fell straight from infinity into earth. But, if it instead approached the solar system at a tangent, it could, in theory hit the earth at almost any velocity.

At a absoloute minimum, the object would start a free-fall from zero (earth-relative) velocity. So I guess you'd figure out how much potential energy that represents, compare that to the heat capacity of h2o, and then see what temperature the h20 would be at after it hit the earth.

My scratch-pad calculations say hot. Real hot

My only hope is that the politicians are just faking their religion to get elected.

How is this any better than authentic religious zealotry? A politician terrorizing homosexuals for his political gain and a genuine religious nutbar who also terrorizes homosexual but this time because he believes invisible beings tell them to do so isn't so different. They're both practicing bigotry and falsehoods. Parenthetically, who is really prostituting who here? The politician deceiving the pious for votes or the pious bringing the politician at their beck and call?

I don't think that video really represents the majority of what creationists or Christians think.

It is one man's (and maybe a select group's) theory. I'm sure there are crazy theories by certain atheists, as well as members of any other religious group as well.

No, there aren't any crazy theories by atheists, Melinda. That is, when crazy = does not adhere to natural laws and empirical work. Once you break that, you're no longer an atheist and thus, aren't an atheist making a crazy theory.

that being said, all creationists are by definition creating theories not based on natural law and empirical work; so while this specific theory may not be shared by the majority of creationists, they still believe equally crazy theory.

P.S. - anywhere where the word 'theory' follows 'crazy', replace it with 'speculation', as theories are always grounded in empirical data, again by defintion. Otherwise it's not a theory, just a 'guess'.