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Here, here.

Wow, finally a decent ad that doesn't make democrats look like a bunch of pussies.

Um...the democrats voted against bringing our troops home as well, so why are we still blaming the republicans?

Bob,
Could you explain what you mean by "democrats voted against bringing our troops home"?

This is one of the news items that I read.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The House of Representatives voted 223-201 Thursday to require most U.S. troops to leave Iraq by April 1, 2008.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, shown with President Bush in March, says the American people are demanding "a new direction."

President Bush vetoed a war-spending bill with a similar withdrawal date in May and has threatened to spike any new effort to set a timetable for a U.S. pullout. His Republican allies in the House said the new measure has no chance of passage

Four Republicans joined 219 Democrats to pass the bill, two more than backed a similar measure in March. But 10 Democrats broke ranks to oppose it.

If anyone cares about bringing the troops home and putting and end to the war, you should write your congressmen/women.

Iraq vote pledge

On 5/16/07, the Senate voted on the Feingold-Reid Amendment to bring U.S. troops home from Iraq by March 30, 2008. The Amendment was defeated 67-29. ALL Republicans voted to keep U.S. troops. 29 Democrats voted to bring our troops home, but 20 did not: Max Baucus (MT), Evan Bayh (IN), Jeff Bingaman (NM), Tom Carper (DE), Bob Casey (PA), Kent Conrad (ND), Byron Dorgan (ND), Mary Landrieu (LA), Carl Levin (MI), Blanche Lincoln (AR), Claire McCaskill (MO), Bill Nelson (FL), Ben Nelson (NE), Mark Pryor (AR), Jack Reed (RI), Jay Rockefeller (WV), Ken Salazar (CO), John Tester (MT), James Webb (VA).

So House Democrats did in fact vote to bring the troops home, but the bill was defeated in the Senate.

It is clear that if there were more democrats than republicans in Congress, the bill would have passed with a large enough margin (two thirds) to override a veto from Mr Bush.

The democrats may be the majority, however they have a slim majority and some of the dems that were elected are quite conservative and tend to vote more in line with the republicans.

"Bob, Could you explain what you mean by "democrats voted against bringing our troops home"?"

Yes Jo Ann, to be fair, the large majority of Democrats DID vote to bring the troops home, but MANY of these same "Democrats" also voted to keep the funding of this war going. To me, and to many Americans this is the same as voting to keep the war going, and to keep our troops in harms way. They were safe votes, showing NO spine or any genuine concern for ending this war and bringing out troops home.

It's been argued...but this is my view.

And we lost my main man Brian Baird! I sure would like to know WHATS UP with him! He musta either drunk the Kool_Aid or someone bought him with some of the billions blowing in the wind...I just don't get it.

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Bob, if Democratic senators voted against continuing to fund the war then they'd be accused of not supporting the troops. But if they vote to continue the funding so that the military personnel over there have the equipment they need to stay alive in a pointless war then they get accused of supporting the war?

What's the word I'm searching for? "Hypocrisy" perhaps?

America is not fighting a civil war in Iraq.

It is occupying the country.

It is not a war. It is an occupation of a country with lots of oil.

"Bob, if Democratic senators voted against continuing to fund the war then they'd be accused of not supporting the troops. But if they vote to continue the funding so that the military personnel over there have the equipment they need to stay alive in a pointless war then they get accused of supporting the war?

What's the word I'm searching for? "Hypocrisy" perhaps?"

It's been proven that very little of that money actually goes to the troops...and why does everyone care what a President who's pole ratings are the 30s accuses us of? What kind of men are we? Have we learned NOTHING from the Republicans over these past six years? Get a spine and a clue. Sooner or later someone is going to have to stand there ground in this nation if were actually going to put an end this war. Lets stop making excuses for the Democrats for failing to do so...

For the children. How cute.

Remind me again: how many of the current DNC candidates currently hold office, and furthermore, originally supported the war?

Mike Gravel is right. The DNC have the power to fight, and as usual, prefer to pander instead.

"Mike Gravel is right. The DNC have the power to fight, and as usual, prefer to pander instead."

Right on!!

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