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Bill Maher - New Rules

I like the rant at the end. The Constitution says there is no religious test, but there is. Bill has a word or two to say about that.




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"We are not the crazy ones."

Good quote.

I also like the bit about a President who didn't believe that the soldiers would go to heaven would be less likely to order them to their deaths.

Right on.

Yeah Bill was spot-on in this Rules... Great!

I think this is a bit of an unfair generalization. Sure, there are a large number of people who act like that. But that doesn't mean EVERYONE is like that. Not every Muslim is a terrorist, not every African-American is a gangsta, not every Asian is a lousy driver, and not every Christian is all fire and brimstone. If we stop generalizing people, the world can come one step closer to peace and understanding

I think this is an unfair generalization. Sure, there are a large number of people who act like that. But that doesn't mean EVERYONE is like that. Not every Muslim is a terrorist, not every African-American is a gangsta, not every Asian is a lousy driver, and not every Christian is all fire and brimstone. If we can stop generalizing people, the world can come one step closer to peace and understanding.

I'm sorry, I had to post twice, because I wasn't sure if my anonymous comment made it through.

Anonymous:

"You're either a rationalist or you're not."

You're right: Moderate Christians and moderate Muslims don't think in extremist terms of fire and doom, but they do believe their God is the truth--from now until the end of time, when JUDGMENT will commence. You seem to be building a straw man against Maher. He didn't say "fire and brimstone"; he said JUDGMENT. And any reasonable person knows believing in divine judgment is absurd and morally opposed to human interests. And even then Christians do believe the first four commandments have a point. Why? How is this beneficial to anyone? Their religions are clouded with views they hold has their own opinion on the way the world should operate, when in actuality, these practices and their views are of ancient customs that have not yet been swept out of existence because of science and reason.

You miss the point when you take a comedian to be too literal. The mere concept of divine rewards and punishments are morally repugnant, regardless of whatever imagery Christians, Muslims, and other religious folk like to color onto it with their monotheistic crayon sets.

George Bush is no Christian. He's been pretending to be a Christian for many years. If you are a true believer, whether it's Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, etc, you would never feel the need to invoke your faith as often as Bush has.

"George Bush is no Christian."

Nor is he a true Scotsman!

Not all people of faith are responsible for the problems of the world.

But faith is by definition a suspension of rational thought....and it is puzzling that a predominant number of people believe that this is a virtue.

We need new Voltaires and a new age of reason

"I think this is a bit of an unfair generalization."

1) No it would be a perfectly fair generalization. The majority of Christians in the U.S. believe the second coming is, well, coming.

2) Bill Maher didn't make any generalizations in the first place.

I wonder if Mr. Maher would include me in that 20%.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethinkers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism%28lifestance%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlowerofLife

I do not have "faith" in the classic judeo-christian sense, however, I also accept that it is a logical fallacy to prove a negative. It is possible, albeit implausible, that supernatural gods are interfering with the physical universe.

And speaking of Voltaire:

"All sects are different, because they come from men; morality is everywhere the same, because it comes from God."

"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."

"Prejudice is opinion without judgement."

Try as I might, I simply cannot buy into this "us v. them" mentality. I know plenty of neighbors who attend church every week, but still maintain skepticism and doubts about various facets of their faith.

Example: I have yet to meet a Christian who believes we should stone those working on the Sabbath.

Example: ask a Jew about the afterlife.

Example: is Buddhism a faith, or philosophy?

Remember: the ~25% of Americans who remain "Pro-Jesus Bushies" are a loud, rude minority. Most religious folks I know are attempting to make sense of life with a blend of rationalism and tradition. Most of them accept evolution, understand dinosaurs, and consider many biblical accounts to be metaphors.

Not everyone who believes in Jesus believes in Noah's Ark. Not everyone who believes in Yaweh thinks that the 10 commandments should be made secular law.

What would we say if blacks, or women, or any other minority were so generalized? I view this as prejudice all the same, irrational belief structures notwithstanding.

I totally agree with Bill on the Phil Spector. If I was wrongly accused of a crime that I did not commit, I'd ask for a bench trial and hope for a sensible judge. However, if on the odd chance I did break a law, I'd put my faith in the fact that at least one of the members of the jury was a complete moron.

*Phil Spector issue.

George Bush is no Christian.

Does it really make a difference? A false Christian and a real Christian makes absolutely no difference.

Let me put it to you this way, does it really matter whether a person hates homosexuals based on their beliefs and does everything in their power to discriminate that group versus, say, a politician that pretends to own that belief for his own political benefit? They're both using the vehicle of belief for their own ends.

Props to Erick

Totally agree. What does being a true Christian even mean? If you act like you believe in a religion, but don't . . or you actually sincerely believe in something that isn't true . . which is better? You both are lying to yourselves . . one of you is delusional, and the other is a fraud.

i thought so before, now i know. Maher reads this blog.

You were quoted on Friendly Atheist! Congrats!

I was doing my periodic One Good Move check-in and it was a thing of beauty! I started at the bottom and worked up. Now I would not be likely to know what zany weirdness was happening on The View, but you curated that "world is flat" item from there this week so it was the first thing I looked at tonight. And then I watched the other good stuff you've collected here... Jon Stewart, Colbert, Olbermann, and finally the Bill Maher piece which ends with him saying the thing about "if you believe the world is flat you could be asked to co-host The View." Wonderful! I felt like an insider just for knowing what he was talking about. Thanks, Norm.

I completely disagree with Maher.

Someone who doesn't have a religion would be MORE likely to not give a shit about the soldiers' lives.

Like, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot. The list goes on.

I personally believe in a Bible that says "Blessed are the peacemakers."

It is only those who have MANIPULATED religion who use it for war. If there is eternal punishment, they are first in line!

(I believe anyone with true love in their heart would be welcomed by God, but a warmongering deceiver like Bush is not such a person)

"Like, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot. The list goes on."

You'd think people would be ashamed to make such idiotic statements. The tired strawman. Hitler wasn't an atheist -- he was an Occultist. Moreover, the four people you named didn't commit their acts because they were "such evil atheists!!!!!" -- they did so because they were narcisstic fucking madmen who were power hungry. They attacked and removed any source of threat to their power -- whomever it was.

But the most tired part of this is the "the list goes on bullshit."

Please. Extend the list by one other name. I wait for someone to name an "evil atheist killer!!!!" who isn't Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, or Mao.

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Oh whoops, wrong examples.

Is there any reason why these people are allowed to plead insanity to murder in the name of a God yet President Bush can use it as a platform to get reelected by the masses?

"I hear voices, they tell me to do things." "Ooh he must have been chosen."

"I hear voices, they tell me to do things." "Ooh, they're crazy."

Why the disparity in response?

Either they are ALL right or they are ALL wrong.

The most likely scenario to me, if there IS a God, is that he is a massive cunt who just wants to fuck with humanity.

"Hey, kill that guy", smother your sons, bash your parent's heads in, invade a foreign nation, go on, do it for Me".

Yep, just God fucking with them.

A great site is for showing the absurdity of god is godisimaginary.com

Question: Has Maher officially joined the A-team? Because I remember in an interview he did a few years back he said that he did not believe in the idiocy of organized religion, but wasn't an atheist. Has his position changed since then? I'm just curious...

"I personally believe in a Bible that says 'Blessed are the peacemakers.'"

Because Bush has promoted so much peace...

So atheist are rationalist...congrats. I thought that I was a rationalist but since I believe in God it makes me a fool, etc., etc., etc.

I know of a few atheist…some are good people and some are idiots who don't care about anybody but themselves. Whenever I start thinking that these people are like that because there was never any religion in their lives I remember those that are better "Christians" than christians yet don't believe in God. My point is that just because you are an atheist doesn't mean that somehow you are smarter than those who believe. I recalled the stupid debate between Cameron and the members of the Rational Response Squad. Let me tell you…the Rational Response Squad didn't sound very rational.

@ Nelgom

I don't think anyone is saying that if you are an atheist that you are an all around respectful, intelligent person. Or a religious person is an all around maniac. We're just saying that if you have mentally convinced yourself that there is a god, and religion is fact, then that really jeopardizes you're judgement. Religion teaches people to believe something is true, despite all rational belief and facts. Thus you're irrational, but only in that aspect.

If someone is a great mathematician but believes that 4+4=10, it doesn't make him a horrible mathematician. But it will screw up a lot of his decisions whenever it involves those numbers.

Jon you must be new here. The arguments that you've espoused are old and exhaustively refuted. Religion and religious apologists seem to be a one trick pony. Let us know when you've come up with something new. In this old conversation of religion, I very much doubt it.

Dan,

Any mathematician who believes 4+4=10 IS a horrible mathematician (I do get your point though).

I live my life according to a set of beliefs that come primarily from my own experiences and, of course, from the culture that I grew up with. Yes, I do believe in God but that does not mean that my decision process is any less impaired that those who are atheist. It is not the believe in God that I think is the problem but the extremism of certain folks who wrongly interpret those believes. That is why some people love Jesus but yet hate Homosexuals, Atheists and anybody else that is not like them including me. Sure, they don't call it hate but rather call it a "concern" for all those lost souls.

The same way that I go about my life is the same way that everyone goes about theirs with a set of prejudices. While in my world God is very important it does not mean that I don't believe in evolution, it doesn't mean that I go around preaching for everyone to convert. Religion does indeed influences many of my decisions like the fact that I do believe in helping my neighbor or in volunteering to feed the homeless.

Now, I do believe the earth is flat since there is no proof that the earth is round (at least that is what I heard in the View).

Explain please the dangers of belief as it relates to the work of people like Newton, Galileo, Copernicus, etc.

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Moreover, the four people you named didn't commit their acts because they were "such evil atheists!!!!!" -- they did so because they were narcisstic fucking madmen who were power hungry.

The wind that just parted your hair was his observation going right over your head.

Here's a clue for you: the issue is not that people are religious. The issue is crazy narcissistic fucking madmen who are power hungry, who either claim to be religious to curry favor, or do not understand or otherwise misuse their religious beliefs.

Any belief system can be misused or misconstrued, and there is no belief system which is intrinsically more likely to lead you wrong than any other. Interesting fact: most sociopaths believe in no higher power.

And on a completely unrelated issue: I'm going to have to DL this episode to see Janeane make an ass of herself. Hilarious what one opened mouth and disconnected brain can to do a once promising career. Maybe she can finally explain to me how when a woman shows some skin it's sexist, unless she permanently mars it with ink in an adolescent symbol of defiance. You go grrrrl!

Ah yes, the infamous argument that religion is the root of all evil. People can start a cause that is detrimental to society, be they theist or atheist. This is a ridiculous argument that you theists and atheist both have going back and forth and it goes to show me that atheists and their prejudice against theists is basically the same. Neither theist nor atheist can prove anything to me if they both have these same ideas that the other is the cause of evil and wrong doing in this world. No wonder humanity is doomed.

To Callendor

Enver Hoxha. There is one more name for the list. You dared us.

JON SAID:

I completely disagree with Maher.

Someone who doesn't have a religion would be MORE likely to not give a shit about the soldiers' lives.

And someone who sends soldiers to war does?

Like, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot. The list goes on.

And Bush, Chaney, etc.

I personally believe in a Bible that says "Blessed are the peacemakers."

True peacemakers do NOT carry killing machines or guns.

It is only those who have MANIPULATED religion who use it for war. If there is eternal punishment, they are first in line!

There's a line? Like a one found in a busy bank..???

(I believe anyone with true love in their heart would be welcomed by God, but a warmongering deceiver like Bush is not such a person)

Love is in the heart? Really IN the heart?

God welcomes? At a door or how does he/she welcome?

Youre one of the crazy ones.

JON SAID:

I completely disagree with Maher.

Someone who doesn't have a religion would be MORE likely to not give a shit about the soldiers' lives.

And someone who sends soldiers to war does?

Like, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot. The list goes on.

And Bush, Chaney, etc.

I personally believe in a Bible that says "Blessed are the peacemakers."

True peacemakers do NOT carry killing machines or guns.

It is only those who have MANIPULATED religion who use it for war. If there is eternal punishment, they are first in line!

There's a line? Like a one found in a busy bank..???

(I believe anyone with true love in their heart would be welcomed by God, but a warmongering deceiver like Bush is not such a person)

Love is in the heart? Really IN the heart?

God welcomes? At a door or how does he/she welcome?

Youre one of the crazy ones.

[blockquote]Explain please the dangers of belief as it relates to the work of people like Newton, Galileo, Copernicus, etc.[/blockquote]

Newton stopped his work on calculus for a start. When he couldn't explain how the planets stayed in their correct orbits when he took he took the effects of multiple objects into account, he said that God did it. It wasn't until Laplace came along that the theory of gravity could actually be proven.

This demonstrates the real reason why religion and science can't mix. The religious, when they can't find an answer through research, simply invoke God. The scientist keeps looking.

Why can't one be religious as a scientist and say "Wow! So that's why God's universe works they way it does. Let's explore this some more."?

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