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re: the "wired" article: definitely the best article i've yet seen by an "outsider" making an honest attempt to understand what the hell is going on here. either norm didn't read the last paragraph, or mucho kudos to him for posting this. or both. i have in the past here castigated atheists for their apparent persecution complexes and suggested they have a little perspective. a quote from the article, by dawkins:

The number of nonreligious people in the US is something nearer to 30 million than 20 million," he says. "That's more than all the Jews in the world put together.

hey richard. those are some serious numbers. maybe we could work together. oh, sorry, we already are...

read "cats cradle" again. the more we pretend to be at odds, the more money we make.

sick,isn't it?

"you're all a bunch of fucking slaves!"- j. morrison

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re: the "wired" article: definitely the best article i've yet seen by an "outsider" making an honest attempt to understand what the hell is going on here. either norm didn't read the last paragraph, or mucho kudos to him for posting this. or both. i have in the past here castigated atheists for their apparent persecution complexes and suggested they have a little perspective. a quote from the article, by dawkins:

The number of nonreligious people in the US is something nearer to 30 million than 20 million," he says. "That's more than all the Jews in the world put together.

hey richard. those are some serious numbers. maybe we could work together. oh, sorry, we already are...

read "cats cradle" again. the more we pretend to be at odds, the more money we make.

sick,isn't it?

"you're all a bunch of fucking slaves!"- j. morrison

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note to self: don't hit post-let alone twice- when having a bad day.

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Thank you Jonathan.

Thank you Jonathan.

If you are interested in th philosophy of Agnostic Uncertainty - try this:

http://homepage.mac.com/rogerlovell/Pedantsareus/iMovieTheater33.html

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thanks, pedantsareus. always feel better after a good laugh. "death to nobody whatsoever!"

This article is soooo last year.

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"the more we pretend to be at odds"

I'm unspooling/schooling.

"there's always a chance we could turn out to be wrong (continue to seem absurd)" Bronowskiism. But...

We have to have some reason... there ain't enough room in the world for the 6+ billion of us.

Seriously. This ain't no OK corral. Cornucopian Freeman Dysons notwithstanding.

Do the finite arithmetic. Or be a fossil in a redundantly "La Brea" tarpit of beastly (of whatever color) wishful thinking. The neo-cortex is neo-reptilian, if not necessarily neo-liberal/conservative. You would have to inhale mega-doses of Carl Sagan's weed-gas not to feel it, or at least be ass-siduously driving weed-gas wedges between your unconsciouses ("i" am unconscious relative to "I").

If there is a way, I can't see it. Sorry/scary, there's always a chance we could turn out to be wrong, but not about everything. There has to be a ground. Every relativity is to ....something.

Finally, the repairperson is here.

It's all going to be alright.

("tikkun" cognate with the oldest word? I know NOTHING...klunk) Sorry/scary...

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