i read the Bourne column before i saw the byline and thought "i didn't love the movie, but who is this asshole columnist?". Eyes shot up to byline: ahh, perfect.

heh. I was the same. Reading it I was thinking "This writing sounds familiar".

Makes me want to watch the movie now. :)

I wasn't personaly interested in the review but I was wondering who the writter was. Yep, didn't need to read it, knew exactly what it said.

I didn't even notice the columnist's name.. Looking back I'm just glad there's just 1 ranting asshole living in fantasyland where there might have been 2 different individual assholes. ;)

WTF, Bill-O is doing entertainment reviews now?

BTW, this just in:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/rove_resigning

I'm not sure if I qualify as one of the elite who understand the "heroes and villains" thing but I'm sure Bill O. does. He's one of my favourite villains. Right up there with the Master Cylinder (anybody remember Felix the Cat?) Seriously, Bill O. serves an extremely useful function for those of us who are not American but travel and work with Americans (usually a pleasure btw). If your not sure of their politics you just have to casually ask: how about that Bill O'reilly? If they're fans of his it is usually pretty obvious and one knows how to deal with them. Usually I knock a syllable or two off the words I use thereafter.

Bill-O has been doing entertainment news for a long time, he's just following trends going after the market with the most amount of money thrown at it. I think he subcribes to Christian & Republican mind sets because he feels that society is a flock of sheep to be guilded and he is the sheapard to should do it. Along the line I think he actualy bought into his own BS.

Bill O's review of the film is scary to me. Bill O is essentially saying that waterboarding is "all american" and should be defended. He apparently cannot grasp the nuances of the story, and only sees "CIA bad, Rogue agent good", when there are several layers of depth to the story (from the movies i've seen, which does not include 'ultimatum').

The movie taps into the feeling that america will do ANYTHING to protect it's own interests, as we have seen in the few years past, (repealing Habeus Corpus, Illegal wiretapping, torture, Blacksites) and how they would use these things to stay the superpower of the world. It's a very chilling thing to see these things used by our government, and nobody (who knows better than Bill O) would be surprised to see an ex-cia agent iced if it threatened "national security".

I love how he bashes Paul Greengrass; I wonder if he is aware that Greengrass also directed "United 93", which Billo probably has on his top 10 of all time list.

Hmm ... actually I'm not too sure whether Billo has the whole movie/reality seperation thing figured out as much as he thinks he does.

The CIA can't catch Jason Bourne because the far-left Julia Stiles is helping him???

I assume he's trying to be funny in that piece, but I'm not sure about his complete understanding of the situation.

And the point about Greengrass directing "United 93" as well is well taken!

I went and looked up the article from which Bill O' paraphrases Greengrass. The only thing I see Greengrass saying that would even come close to Bill's assertion that Greengrass "purposely tapped into the mistrust the world has of the USA" is "'When you’re in troubled times and the stakes are high,' Greengrass adds, 'cinema comes alive.'" Also, I looked up the quote Julia Stiles allegedly said. Google only returned O'Reilly's own article in various places, but nothing of the actual quote.

Bill should know by now that if you ask someone to look up something, and they do, and you're wrong, that makes you an even bigger ignoramus than if you simply spouted nonsense and left it at that.

Just thought you all would like to see this. I guess Billo will just keep makin them up as long as there are suckers out there to listen.
Q: Are there any other causes that you champion as a young adult in the political scene or social scene?

A: Let's see, I mean I am very weary of the idea of getting up on a soapbox but I am a big supporter of Moveon.org. They are into sort of an open dialogue about this coming election, reproductive rights. I mean I would be going to their march on Washington...I mean I was definitely going to go until now I am doing this play so I cannot get to Washington. But I support Planned Parenthood. I mean there are organizations that I support and their causes.

The movie taps into the feeling that america will do ANYTHING to protect it's own interests

So the shocking revelation is that we're just like every other country in the world? Except, of course, that in our country it's considered the utmost high fashion to reap the benefits with one hand while flipping off your nation with the other.

Let's see, I mean I am very weary of the idea of getting up on a soapbox but I am a big supporter of Moveon.org.

That should surprise is? This place is ineffectual hippie haven. I still remember MoveOn.org sending me email after email - after I foolishly signed one of their petitions - telling me how we should get the Democrats to keep sending the same pointless bill over and over to the President. That's the type of forward-thinking, progressive movement we need. Thanks MoveOn!

So the shocking revelation is that we're just like every other country in the world? Except, of course, that in our country it's considered the utmost high fashion to reap the benefits with one hand while flipping off your nation with the other.

That's right! It's no big deal we're acting like any garden variety banana republic, with a vile secret police violating the rights of anyone, innocent or guilty, who gets in their path. Nosiree, that's cool! Acceptable! Neat-o! All American! Why, we’re no worse than the terrorist scum we’re fighting! God bless! Waterboard away! Abu Ghraib was only wrong because it didn’t go far enough to torture those fucking terrorists! We want field radios wired to testicles! Blow torches! Lead pipe beatings! Mutilations! Fuck the terrorists, we’re America!

Just don't use your goddamn fucking right to free speech, America! Now THAT'S just un-fucking-American! You scumbag traitors, you! You goddamn ingrates, bitching and whining and badmouthing America because we torture a few “evil doers” for absolutely NO substantive reason! Why, don’t you see how good you’ve got it here? And don’t you see the CIA and military intelligence are torturing to protect YOU, you hippie ingrates? TRAITORS!

Thanks, Teabag, you righteous American patriot (like your pal O'Reilly), for clearing this all up for me. It’s nice to know how the petite fascist dorks think in this country. You may think you’re rational, but the truth is you’re a moron for even expressing this kind of wacko logic. It’s good to know so many fellow citizens were always just one terrorist attack away from becoming terrified and shrieking armchair fascists. You, like O’Reilly, are too cowardly to be a real fascist.

Personally, I don't see my life "reaping" the "benefits" of my country using torture and bootheel justice around the world, and therfore I also do not consider it "high fashion" to criticize my government for engaging in such vile behavior. I consider it my duty.

That you think on the one hand our more criminal behavior in Iraq and Afghanistan in the "war on terror" was A-OK, and on the other that criticism of such behavior is somehow un-American, makes you a repugnant pig of the worst sort.

And a coward.

Oh, how these ad hominems do often stick to people when flung at them.