No offense to the "good" Texans out there but Texans like these give you a bad name. Everything's bigger in Texas and that's certainly true with @ssholes, as is the case here. There are good people in the state, I just hope that someday they can take it back from the lunatics that seem to be running things.

re: science and the islamic world: interesting (and scary) article- thanks, norm. i was struck by this statement:>No Muslim leader has publicly called for separating science from religion.

i wonder, has any leader of any religion called for such a separation?

signed, confused

loved the "charley" clip, btw. i'm more of a "dog" person, but i like cats too, and happen to be living with one at the moment, ancient and arthritic, but with admirable dignity. way cute.

I took Muslim leader" in this context to mean leader of a Muslim state rather than religious learders.

For those wanting a peek at the future of America if this current anti-science religious mania wins the day, please read the article on Islam and Science.

Seven hundred years of scientific and philosophical stagnation, poverty, political and military impotence. The price of righteous ignorance.

Well done, Norm, from another liberal who never met a cat he didn't like.