And still loses.

Far too much effort. Easier just to call every shot out, no matter where it lands.

LOL @ Sean Reilly.

Here's another quote you guys might enjoy:

If you want to reason about faith, and offer a reasoned defense of faith, I'm eager to play. I certainly grant the existence of the phenomenon of faith; I want to see a reasoned ground for taking faith seriously as a way of establishing useful facts. But don't expect me to go along with your defence of faith as a path to truth if at any point you appeal to the very dispensation you supposedly try to justify (circular reasoning). Before you appeal to faith when reason has you backed into a corner, think about whether you really want to abandon reason when reason sits on your side. Dennett

—Daniel Dennett

In order for the debate to be evenly matched not only does the net need to be raised but I need a 50lb weight shackled to my ankle, crows pecking at my head, a blindfold and I need to be standing in a pool of water.

Even then I'll have the edge against he religionist.

@doug: you forgot crocs with frikkin' lasers.

Here's yer xyientific truth: the big G's a computer. In this world, one would suspect a Packard Bell running win95.