And the evangelicals are laughing all the way to the political bank. I imagine they are thinking so what if the "elites" feel contempt for them - the scornful elites are still giving them power, and a huge voice in government - most notably in our courts.
And, Tucker is so cool - he doesn't really dislike gays - his people are just messing with gay lives to distract the evangelicals so Republicans can get their taxes lowered. That makes them so much better....

It's so nice to see even the most staunchly conservative commentators (Tucker Carlson, Joe Scarborough) calling out the Republican establishment on its ridiculousnesses (that's a word for ya).

Of course I'm sure I don't have a representative sample, given that all I see of them is on this site... :-)

Well, it is their own damn faults.

They are the ones that think gays getting married is such a damn big issue that they are willing to sacrafice a plethora of much more important issues just so Bill and Ted don't tie the knot.

Of course Bush pandered, when was that in question? He pandered to both the social conservatives and the economic conservatives. The difference is that he delivers on the economic side and not on the social side.

Oh, gad, I can't believe these assholes get paid for saying the obvious.

I have a gay cousin who is very rich. And I'm not saying all gays are rich, but there are quite a few and many of them voted for Bush. They voted for Bush for the same reasons all rich people did: the tax-cut.

Perhaps you did not know: Sully (Andrew Sullivan who is part of this discussion) was one of those who thought we gays should vote Republican. The Utah chapter of Log Cabinettes was (for a short time) very prominent (no surprise) and a chronic burr under my saddle. I have rural acquaintances who say they are only fiscal Republicans and somehow rationalize the blatant anti-gay wording in the Party’s Platform.

About four years ago at a resplendent pool party, a rich pinkie-ringed (on both hands) homosexual chided me for driving a big honk’n SUV whilst I opined some anti-Bushisms. He felt I was a hypocrite. He said I should praise Bush for keeping oil prices down. But before I could explain I use public mass transportation every workday he twirled around and flip-flopped his pasty-white ass back to the main house.

Okay, so some gays are misguided. They eventually started to feel uncomfortable when Republicans did not really lower our taxes and it became increasingly evident the GOP was NOT the grand ol’ party for everyone. They feel gays are welcome to primp their wives’ hairdos and plan/organize their blessed weddings but keep them closeted or downstairs with the other servile citizens.

The anti-gay message with the Federal Marriage Constitutional amendment was the turning-point for Sully and many other gay Republicans. If only they had opened their eyes six years earlier.

They hate gays only because its different. You can't make a baby that way. Therefore it scares them. Its so silly that a person can be treated horribly just for being Gay. I thought we went through a civil rights battle before. So I would think, we would be "America the free and great" oh but I forgot to read the small writing...gays cant get married. What a joke.