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Born Again, Idiot

"But if the Lord told me to, I would." It's the non-thinking called faith. Don't question, don't reason, just do it.




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Ohh, look at him. He's such an idiot; he made a joke. Come on, you can find better things to post than this can't you?

I don't think he was joking. He was amused at the fact that Tom Cruise jumped on a couch, but I think it was clear that it was a completely different thing if he thought his god wanted him to do something like that.

im an atheist, but if i heard a voice saying it was god and that i needed to jump on a couch im pretty sure id do it. if god told me to kill someone i wouldnt (unless out of self-defense, etc).

i wonder what percentage of the faithful actually have god tell them to do things.

Yeah, the Baldwin from Bio-Dome, big game there. How about a refutation of Wittgenstein's earlier ideas on God? Actually, no, I wouldn't visit religiously (pardon my pun) if you did that. I highly appreciate the multimedia of people acting like idiots. Believe it or not that's the reason I come here. I feel ashamed honestly, says something about our culture in general ...and they say bloggers aren't sensationalists.

Why do I picture this conversion?

MANAGER: Face it, Steve-o: your career's in the crapper. This might sound nuts, but the crazy religious nut thing is hot. We're talking major face time. Cruise was at the top of his game and joined a cult of total whack-jobs. Bad move. You, babe, got nowhere to go but up, and get this: you're going to go mainstream. Jesus H. Christ all the way. Just imagine how that'll play in Peoria. Those inbred red-state hicks will plotz. They won't just demand roles for you, they'll scream discrimination for the parts you don't land. Bill O'Fucking'Reilly will be your agent, my man. How's that sound?

BALDWIN: Praise... um... Hay-zoos?

MANAGER: It's Gee-zus, Steve. We'll work on that.

When I read your title to this video it strikes me as someone very bitter. I think you have a very narrow definition of faith. Faith can be applied to practically everything, not just religion. Faith is the things hoped for but not seen. Everything we learn in life we learn by faith. A history book is perfect example. I never witnessed world war 2, I wasn’t there for the signing of the magna carta, and I certainly wasn’t there for the assassination of Lincoln but I have read/been taught these things by my professors and I have faith that they are true. On a wide scale many people accept these things to be true even though they did not see them. I am just trying to draw a parallel for people to see. I think its a bit more noticeable in religion because its almost as if all the people in the world grew up learning a different history. That’s why there is so much contention. The word repentance basically means "change". This is the hardest thing for the human race to do. An unwillingness to change is the cause people stop progressing. I’m sure there are things I've learned that are false, but in the future if I come upon something that disproves my current knowledge, am I willingly to change? Most people in the world including Christians would rather be right than know the truth. If an atheist came upon something that undeniably proved there was a God, would he be willingly to accept it, or would his primal human instinct close himself off and do everything he can to deny it so he can remain "right". I think you get an idea for why christian/muslim or whomever, do the things they do. There has to be things in their religions that are untrue, and truth will always make itself known. Why do these people do such extreme things? Like I said, people would rather be right in wrong, than accept the truth and be right. There has to be things in their religions that are untrue. This is where faith ties everything together. Remember, most advanced level knowledge you’ve learned in life has been by faith. My chemistry book tells me that such a chemical reaction will happen under such circumstances, so I believe it. My biology book explains that the organ arrangement in this bird is in such a way, so I believe it. Both these examples are great because it can be tied to religion. While I’ve never seen these things, both are plausible in witnessing for yourself if push came to shove. I could produce that chemical reaction myself, or I could dissect that bird and prove it to myself that the book was true. Most the times this is unnecessary because we have such faith in these books that we don’t doubt it. But nevertheless we can still prove it. Religion is no different. Logic is my best friend when it comes to religion. It starts with my belief that if there is a God, he must be perfect. So if He is perfect, He must think logically too. I’m a big believer in one correct religion, not many. The reason being is because of truth. Something cannot be true and untrue and the same time. So if God established a religion, it can only be one. God is logical and you must be also. Sorry, I’ve gone off on a tangent here, so ill pull myself back. I don’t want to start down the path of distinguishing religions. That’s a whole topic in itself. So like I said, acting on faith is not narrow minded, and if you think it is, then you are in the same boat as all of us. We do it everyday. I think as an adult it becomes less obvious we do than compared to when we were a child. If several well-known and trusted doctors told me I needed surgery or I would die, I would have the surgery. Logic ends at that point and faith begins. I don’t know what these doctors know, but I have faith they do, and ill do what they say because I want to live. The thinking is the same for Christians and God. They believe they don’t know everything that God knows, but believe He knows more than them so they apply the same logic as I stated above with the doctors. It really is not that absurd when I think of it in this context.

I hope he and Kirk Cameron will be very happy together.

What troubles me most about such demonstrations of fundamentalism is not so much that there is no reason as that there is no feeling.

Fundamentalism freezes the heart, so that feeling becomes alien and impossible. This is why fundamentalists and their elected tools of death are capable of violence on so vast and hideous a scale as would give a commited mass murderer pause.

There is truly no human force as dangerous as the self-righteous and black-hearted believer, no matter his choice of creed or the flavor of his faith. Remember, as innocent as this vapid actor may seem in his stupidity, he represents the force that brought us the carnage in Iraq and New Orleans.

My Dad grew up with him in Long Island. Says he was always a real obnoxious Jackasss

He's an effing moron. The only thing he can accurately represent is idiocy.

http://www.radaronline.com/features/2006/09/saint_stephen.php

Daily Rev, are you saying that fundamentalists control the weather now?

"represents the force that brought us the carnage in Iraq and New Orleans."

Britton: A history book is perfect example. I never witnessed world war 2, I wasn’t there for the signing of the magna carta, and I certainly wasn’t there for the assassination of Lincoln but I have read/been taught these things by my professors and I have faith that they are true.

...Although many people believe the information they receive, information received does not require belief in it (again, beliefs have no bilateral symmetry requirements). Examples: the information from books, stories, science, theories, fiction, religion, etc., all represent communicated ideas, but one does not need to believe in any communication in order to utilize it. ...Although scientists rarely approach intransigence (although some do) , they usually believe in their data and theories and most philosophers believe in their philosophies. However, consider that every scientific fact can stand on the evidence alone. Nature occurs without human beliefs and so does reliable evidence. There simply exists no apparent necessity for attaching beliefs to knowledge. "Have you ever noticed.... Anybody going slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?" --George Carlin I find it interesting to observe the state of belief in people. They most always see the problems of fanatical belief above them on the chart, but they never accept the disbelief of those below them. Believers always retain just the right amount of belief, it seems, and they unconsciously put themselves in a kind of self-centered, subjective dogma. I contend that most of us do not own beliefs of every kind and, indeed, we disbelieve more than we believe. Just as some believers have fewer beliefs than others, non-believers simply sit at the bottom of the scale. If you can, temporarily, put yourself outside of your own beliefs, you can question why you dismiss the beliefs of others, while perhaps understanding why non-believers dismiss yours. --Jim Walker (nobeliefs.com)

britton, "If an atheist came upon something that undeniably proved there was a God, would he be willingly to accept it, or would his primal human instinct close himself off and do everything he can to deny it so he can remain "right"."

im pretty sure most american atheists started out as christians but were convinced otherwise. these are people who are willing to change their views, and i think most atheists would become believers if there was sufficient proof.

you make a good point about humans generally being willing to accept whatever is told to them, and it is good to be aware of this danger (not that you shouldnt accept what people tell you, but just that you should realize that its an assumption). i dont think theres anything i dont question, the faithful on the other hand consider it heresy to question. i think that is really dangerous, and denies a very fundamental aspect of humanity.

Gelf, sure I'll admit that I have faith in the things that I'm taught about science. I have reason to have this faith though. Any claim a scientist makes has to be backed up by fact, or his competetive peers will prove him wrong out of spite. ;)

Hey! Insulting someone because of their faith is tolerant and fun! Good thing we're not like those religious wackos who think they're all high and mighty, because it's US who's certainly WAY better than they are!

BTW, We love tolerance!

Gimme a break. Don't spread hate masked as intelligence.

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