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Religion itself is the fount of most evil

For the government of a secular country such as ours to treat religion as if it had real merit instead of regarding it as a ridiculous anachronism, which education, wisdom and experience can hopefully overcome in time, is one of the most depressing developments of the 21st century. Religious people must be treated with the same respect as non-religious people, but their religions should quite properly be regarded with the weary contempt they deserve. Instead we have debates on TV news shows between hardline Muslim scholars and moderate Muslim politicians without any intervening voice of scepticism suggesting that the whole darned thing might be just as invented as virgin births and Mormon tablets.
Since these are dark days, it’s time to stop all this polite tiptoeing around religion and harden up accordingly. Our elected leaders constantly bleating their respect for religion is not political correctness but a public declaration that intellect, tolerance, democracy, reason and enlightenment are of less value than dogma and delusion.


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The question is now who told Miller about Plame? That source at the CIA is the one who is going to go to jail.

I love your blog - Please never go away!

"secular country such as ours"

Says who?

http://www.adherents.com/relUSA.html#religions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DemographicsoftheUnitedStates#Religiousaffiliation

That sure doesn't look a 'secular country' to me.

"education, wisdom and experience" cannot overcome something it is incapable of understanding; the Infinite, the Creator, the God of all, even those who profess unbelief.

Thanks so much for linking to my War? What War? And congrats on your weblog of the day award!

The United States was in no way founded on the Christian religion, anon.

Take a look here:

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm

You can actually make a better argument for a Pagan America:

http://www.nobeliefs.com/pagan.htm

Mad Kane - while the United States governement does not proclaim to be christian, basically all of those who wrote the founding documents and signed them were. The Christian religion was fundamental, and remains so today, to the USA, whether its officially recognized or not.

Brendan, please do a little research. The majority of Founding Fathers were students of The Enlightenment, and were inclined to Deism which is not Christianity. Read Common Sense by Thomas Paine (son of a Quaker minister, I believe) for an introduction to Deism and its relationship to Christianinty.

Brendan, please do a little research. The majority of Founding Fathers were students of The Enlightenment, and were inclined to Deism which is not Christianity. Read Common Sense by Thomas Paine (son of a Quaker minister, I believe) for an introduction to Deism and its relationship to Christianity.

Couldn't agree more. It's about time that religion stopped trying to monopolise morality. In my opinion, religious people are the least qualified to call themselves moral.

"secular country such as ours" Says who? http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#religions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Religious_affiliation

The country the author is referring to is the UK, not the US.

And, yes, more than a few of the Founding Fathers and early Presidents of the US were Deists.

The author Muriel Gray is scottish.

We have no one but ourselves to blame that the delusion held by so many that "America is a Christian Nation" has become an erroneous conventional wisdom. They've been saying that for decades out there in heartland America, and have received nothing but agreement or silence in reply, so naturally they've come to believe it's true. But that silence did neither them nor us any favors. It might be rude to reply "No, it's not" to someone who believes it to be true (try it, and watch the shocked reaction,) but certainly a bit of gentle rudeness is preferable to what we have now: A nation divided into two opposing groups whose visions of America are not reconcileable.

"Religious moderates are, in a large part, responsible for the religious conflict in the world, because their beliefs provide the context in which scriptural literalism and religious violence can never be adequately opposed." Sam Harris " The End of Faith" If we don't stand up to the literalist, with Reason by our side, we might as well be out there preaching for their line. Would you sit there and let some one go on about the virtues of slavery. Or if you would only pray and really mean it, you will stop the cancer in brain. No Doctor, just pray. This is when we need to have the common decentness to stand up and say bullshit. Shine a light on their crap. So they can have a better look.

I must say, showing a website that states that the majority of the population of a country is of Christian, is not the same thing as saying that "this is a Christian nation", any more than saying that because the majority of Americans are white makes us a white nation.

Our nation is supposed to be secular, allowing for a diverstiy of religions. Fact is that I know more want to shove my religious beliefs down your throat than I want you shoving yours down mine.

And no, I don't want government or societal rules and regulations to be based on religious beliefs.

Religion is not the cause or fount of evil, as you claim. Humans are. Basic human nature is flawed. Whether in a secular society, a religious society, or any other type of culture or society you could dream up, humans will create behaviours and belief systems that divide people and cause 'evil'. Religion has nothing to do with it. The basic tenet of Christianity is to love your neighbor as yourself. There's nothing wrong with that, no sane person could argue against that basic idea. But humans twist any belief system or culture to their own selfish desires.

I agree with you that humans will "create behaviors and belief systems that divide people and cause 'evil'" and that is what religion is, a belief system created by humans. Had the christians left it at love your neighbor as yourself that would be fine, but alas they didn't.

It's just kind of funny, but the humans are fond of talking about Islam not being monolithic. In fact, humanity has barely exhausted it's own geological frontiers and it's borders are armed to the teeth and yet humnity is ready to condemn a particular religion on the grounds of disparity of belief or 'oneness'.

And how many big rocks does earth science count from the sun? Why, human science is hardly monolithic and yet it certainly exhibits some form fascism in it's own heirarchy demanding belief from the ignorant or barely educated or scientific cognocsenti. I like arrogant science, but when Earth shows some monolithic tendencies, I trust it will be due to the inch worm progress of scientists and driven by the strife of those reaching too soon for the stars. God, Earthlings forget their youth--it's beautiful and perilious.

Maybe life started on earth from a foreign pod because earth was deemed compatible to foreign life. I like this notion, if for no other reason, we can dream of sending out our own reproductive pods to habitable worlds. A species doomed to examine x-rays and red shifts and fantasies and the truth or terror of religious non-existence.

It's just kind of funny, but the humans are fond of talking about Islam not being monolithic. In fact, humanity has barely exhausted it's own geological frontiers and it's many borders are armed to the teeth and yet humanity is ready to condemn a particular religion on the grounds of disparity of belief or 'oneness'.

And how many big rocks does earth science count from the sun? Why, human science is hardly monolithic and yet it certainly exhibits some form fascism in it's own heirarchy demanding belief from the ignorant or barely educated or scientific cognocsenti. I like arrogant science, but when Earth shows some monolithic tendencies, I trust it will be due to the inch worm progress of scientists and driven by the strife of those reaching too soon for the stars. God, Earthlings forget their youth--it's beautiful and perilious.

Maybe life started on earth from a foreign pod because earth was deemed compatible to foreign life. I like this notion, if for no other reason, we can dream of sending out our own reproductive pods to habitable worlds. A species doomed to examine x-rays and red shifts and fantasies and the truth or terror of religious non-existence.

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