Pat Buchanan Explodes
Buchanan outlines the role he thinks the press should play.
Propaganda arm of the Bush Administration. Anything less is sedition.
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Anything less is sedition.
Oh be quiet, you pansy! Nobody wants to hear from some tree hugging liberal who's critical of the government. Just because you're SUPPOSED to discipline your children when they do something wrong doesn't mean you should for the government. It's unpatriotic!
/sarcasm
At least he's being yelled at.
Hey Norm. Do you think you could go back to the old format in which we clicked on a link to take us to the page with the clip? I know this probably works just fine for everybody, but MPlayer in Linux doesn't seem to like it this way. And you're like, one of my favorite blogs. . .
"did they do the right thing?...pat?"
"Yes. No. I'm right OBEY ME!!!"
linux.....bah. get a mac you communist.
Alright, nevermind. I found a workaround.
About Buchanan though, his sometimes blistering critiques of the Bush admin as well as his opposition to the Iraq war have given me new semi-respect for the man. He does appear to be quite principled. And I think I see where he was going with his argument, understand and only partially agree.
He mentioned that it would enflame the Muslim world. That's where I agree.
But what I don't get is what about the rest of the news the "Muslim World" has certainly gotten by now, not to mention urban legend and word of mouth etc? This outrage at Newsweak printing a story about what everybody already knew being a source of sedition is utter hyperbole. Naomi Klein wrote about such Koran abuse/desecration more that a year ago:
And Thursday, I saw something that I feared more than any of this: a copy of the Koran with a bullet hole through it. It was lying in the ruins of what was Sadr's headquarters in Sadr City. A few hours earlier, witnesses said, U.S. tanks broke down the walls of the center after two guided missiles pierced its roof. The worst damage, however, was done by hand. Clerics at the Sadr office said soldiers entered the building and shredded photographs of Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani, the top Shiite cleric in Iraq. When I arrived at the destroyed center, the floor was covered with torn religious texts, including copies of the Koran that had been ripped and shot through with bullets. And it did not escape the notice of the Shiites here that hours earlier, U.S. soldiers had bombed a Sunni mosque in Fallouja.
I remember no such fury when this story was printed.
And why would this "Muslim World" everybody talks about not be aflame and outraged already if they were ever going to be? Shooting Korans while people are being needlessly killed? C'mon!
Did they talk about the pictures of Saddam? I want to know if they are going to go after Rupert Murdoch.
Rather than muzzling the press, maybe America should consider the possibility of not engaging in illegal activities that incite ever greater hatred of Americans around the planet.
Or would that be too complex a concept for the government to grapple with?
hi, would it be possible to please post both options for vieiwing? (click a link and click picture). i often email these links or post some of the great ones on a forum. this is a great way to get lots of people to see this stuff and many of them wouldn't take the time to go to "onegoodmove". thanks a lot, celery
The Newsweek report was old news, reports like this have been out for a year. Human Rights watch and several agencies already had this on record.
They gave the report to the Pentagon and Southern command before they filed it and the government didn't say anything.
Newsweek behaved resposibly, it is our government who has not. They are the ones culpable in this instance.
Most American's don't realize how censored their news is and has been for years. I was in Tokyo during the late 80's and a US Navy Ship, the USS Towers, opened fire on a Japanese National patrol boat with its big guns using non-exploding projectiles.
The patrol boat executed a high speed turn and the shells hit the water just off its stern. Those shells are huge and even non-exploding ones would have done serious damage.
Tokyo, where I was, went nuts and there were huge demonstrations, both anti-American and Japanese right wing demonstrations for us. The streets were filled with demonstrators and it went on for days.
My company feared for my life and weren't sure what was going to happen so they hustled me off to Kamakura for a week to see if things would cool down. During that time I called people in Miami, Chicago, New York, LA, and San Francisco and no one had heard about it. Huge anti-American demonstration in one of the worlds largest cities and there was nothing in the press at all.
Eventually an Admiral was dispatched from the Pentagon to apologize to the Emperor and the Japanese Government, the captain was rapidly court martialed.
About some months later I was at a Christmas party with some of the people in my condominium complex. About 60% of them had security clearances. I was curious so I asked the room... "who here has heard of the USS Towers incident?" Everyone with clearances raised their hands. I asked them how was this possible and the only answer I got was... "Well you see there's the white world and the black world."
As I said... American's have no idea that there press has been censored and manipulated for a very long time. The liberal bias crap is just exactly that and the real culprit in the Newsweek affair is the Pentagon folks who let the story slide through without comment or the White House for deliberately letting it go through to further silence the press as they did in the Valerie Plame case.
well anon, one problem with your gripe is that the vast majority have no interest in such news anyway. It isn't the sort of entertainment they have come to expect from their candy-coated network news sources.
So it is not so much censorship as it is the state of blissful self-indulgent ignorance that Americans prefer to wallow in. A laugh on Leno is a much more worthwhile night on the couch than grappling with some murky oversea political issue.
Overseas abuses just don't cut the mustard that people want on their all american media hotdog.
Criticising America is after all, Anti-American.
The abuses at American prison camps in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantánamo Bay, Cuba will be the legacy of the Bush Administration. History will not be kind to Mr. Bush. And realistically, this administration will not have time to heal this pox on his kinder, gentler faux façade.
But, now, the resources of this administration are getting stretched too thin with focusing on judicial appointments, same-sex marriages and SEX in general. They don’t have the ability to run a war properly.
THIS IS THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. YOU MUST OBEY. DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS ARE UN-AMERICAN. THE TRUTH IS UN-AMERICAN. DO NOT THINK. WATCH FOX NEWS CHANNEL--THE 1984 NETWORK.
Did Pat Buchanon ever suggest a penalty for this 'sedition'?
The choice of words used to point out the 'resistance' in Iraq is probably sedition too.
It use to be terrorists or Saddam loyalists. Islamic revolutionist or Sunnis Militia and Shia Militia. Jihadist. Foreign fighters was popular. Rebels never loses meaning. Resistance is apt. Insurgency never far off the mark. But today, I read 'Guerrillas' in a headline. That's a term that reconciles the nature of the Iraq war with the nature of the Vietnam war. Most Seditious!
This man is an absolute LOON!! He's a fool, a narcissist, and an IDIOT!
I - being American - understand that our image has been horribly tainted over the past few years of reckless and misguided blundering about.
I - as an American - am disgusted by our administrations policies and do humbly apologize to all will listen.
The point about not caring what we hear on the news is only half right. If we had a media that was driven by principle and not profit-margin you'd have a much more informed public... of course that goes against the status quo and these a-holes that run the show.
cheers
I'm tired, Norm, so tired.
Why would anyone trust Pat Buchanan? He (like many others on both sides) pretends to espouse issues that appeal to "the other side" then he SLAMS you with totalitarianism.
Liberty is on the run, friends. I know...let's type little notes to each other and pretend that it makes a difference.
I miss bumperstickers.
"Why would anyone trust Pat Buchanan? He (like many others on both sides) pretends to espouse issues that appeal to "the other side" then he SLAMS you with totalitarianism."
Oh, please. Pat Buchanan has been anti-war, anti free trade for longer than contemporary liberals have been. There is a war between paleo-conservatives and neo-conservatives, who believe in pretty much totally opposite views. Ignorance about conservative politics will never beat the Republicans. The reason why the anti-war movements failed (a war I don't agree with) was the fact that the left wing in America refused to team up with paleo-conservatives. Had they done that, we may not have been in Iraq and possibly Syria in the future.
So please, learn something about Pat Buchanan before you attack him.